Jimmy Carter is correct for the first time in his life
A private commission trying to improve national elections has recommended changes such as free photo IDs, improved voter registration lists and rotating regional primaries, while warning that "Americans are losing confidence in elections."
Carter said he was hesitant about the free photo ID proposal at first, but laws passed in some states like Georgia convinced him that a national approach was a better idea. Republican lawmakers in Georgia pushed through legislation that requires a new voter identification card that costs $20 for five years.
This is so sweet. A hero to the dems is in favor for voter ID's. Your excuses are lame. Maybe Carter was not aware that fixing elections is the only way that the Democratic party can have any hope of ever winning another election.
"Some foreign countries have gone far beyond us in making sure that voting procedures and registration of voters is at a high level of true democracy," said former President Carter, who has monitored elections around the world.
Please explain why people can not show the free ID that the government would give them? Liberals, do you really have that little faith in your fellow man? Do you think that poorly of American citizens to believe they are so incompetent they can not prove who they are?
Make this a federal law...and at least some faith in voting will be restored.
I'm going to go drive to class now...I need my ID to drive.
Then I will get something to eat using my credit card or check...where I need my ID.
Tomorrow I will go to the bank and then rent a movie...need my ID for both.
Praise the Republican's if they pass a federal law giving everyone a free ID card. They are so compassionate...While the Left makes more excuses, never any solutions.
Oh ya, what are your solutions for voter fraud?
Monday, September 19, 2005
Panel Suggests Ways to Improve Elections
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This certainly makes Doyle and the Dems in the Wisconsin legislature look like idiots.
I'd love to hear Carter's take on Doyle's three vetoes.
As you said, this is so sweet!
I am considered by many a liberal and have no problem with this at all. As a matter of fact I would support it. I think you are overreaching saying this is some kind of liberal plot.
I don't have a big problem with ID cards as long as they were free and extremely easy to obtain (but still legal and hack-proof).
I do see one major problem with the federal government passing a law requiring IDs for elections. As I read the Constitution, the Congress can pass laws regarding the election of Representatives and Senators but not about the election of the president.
glad to see commone sense coming out of the Left.
Jim, you might be right...and I do think ultimately states should decide how to do this, but it would be so easy for the federal government to take care of an easy way to make it harder to cheat.
In Wisconsin, the Republican's passed THREE voter ID bills, each one made it easy for anyone to get one for free...the Democratic Governor vetoed them...said that ID cards would not fix voter fraud..
It is possible there might be other ways to cheat...but I do think having voter ID cards makes it harder.
Those that oppose voter ID cards are the ones that register dead people to vote and then go in and vote in their place. They are almost always Democrats.
I haven't been to the polls in years, yet I've voted in every election since, well I'm not saying.
I vote absentee everytime. What does an ID card mean to me personally? Nobody ever sees my face when it comes to voting.
What about electronic voting machine fraud? Any comments on that? How do we make sure that people with valid picture ID cards get their votes counted properly?
the touch screens should have a paper trail...
of course you are just trying to avoid the issue...there is absolutely NO reason people can not have an ID when they vote...and all the bills being presented allow anyone to get a free ID...
why shouldn't they do it again?
Scorpion says---
Jim Doyle + Jimmy Carter = 0.
Still, Jimmy Carter could never in his time remaining on this earth mess up as many times as Jim Doyle already has.
OK, here's a thought. I'm sure everyone by now is aware that all across the country there are fingerprint scanners, and retinal scanners being set up for employees to 'clock' in and out of at work. These devices are also in use for employees that have priviledges to access certain areas of their employment, which are not accessible to everyone. So these scanners work as keys also. I am told that the next line of automobiles for sale will all include similar scanning devices INSTEAD of keys, making them virtually theft free!
So, how about the government having voting machines set up that will scan fingerprints, or retinas, and also will be able to match up the fingerprints/retina with the Social Security number attached to those fingerprints or retina. If someone tries to vote more than one time with that set of prints, or if the prints don't match the Social Security number, the vote is thrown out, and the matter is investigated.
I think it would work. According to my tax accountant there is a lot of false Social Security cards/numbers floating around in the general public, most of which belong to people coming in from
'south of the border'. Matching fingerprints to numbers seems the only way to prevent this type of fraud?
I do get worried that the government will mess something that complicated up. I don't want anyone who is a legal citizen of the United States from voting. Lets start with ID's and see how that goes.
I am NOT missing the point. ID cards to present at the polls are fine as far as that goes, but how do you make sure that absentee ballots are used by the right person?
I am adding a NEW POINT. It is completely separate from ID Cards and that is electronic voting machines and how do we ensure that they accurately count the votes and ensure that the vote that the voter intended to cast actually gets counted to that candidate.
In my opinion, the electronic machine should ONLY assist voters in producing a clear and valid scannable ballot. The ballots should be collected and scanned to count the votes. The electronic machine could keep a tally that could be matched against the scanner tally, but the scanner tally would be primary tally. Any difference between the two tallies would require immediate, non-partisan audit.
Game, it's not really that complicated. They use the same sort of computer programs to match criminals. These sort of systems are already in effect for many positions, including top government jobs.
Well, a paper trail could stop electronic machines from messing up...but I don't see what is wrong with the scanned paper ones...
I guess making absentee ballots be turned in early enough so that they can be verified and the persons name can be taken off the voter list..
Our system is so poorly run it is sad...this is suppose to be one of our greatest privileges, and we treat it like a after thought
I have voted by absentee ballot a couple of times. Actually the procedure for voting absentee was monitored closely, my ID was checked and documents proving that I was entitled to vote that way were required. I even had to get the request form to vote absentee notarized. I think come election times though, some people in some states will stop at nothing to cheat.
Tell Jim that when absentee ballots become the primary form of voting his argument will be relevant. Until that time it is another way to dodge the issue. Just like a liberal to always bring out the sinlge exception and make it the rule. One out of every 100,000 people (totally made up figure) doesn't believe in God so God should be out of every aspect of our lives. Isn't there a place for progressive wackos, like Conneticut?
Joe,
A quick Google shows that in many areas of the country, absentee ballots account for anywhere from 17% to 40%, even 75% of the votes cast. Forty percent might not be "primary", but I wouldn't call that trivial.
"so God should be out of every aspect of our lives." What in the heck are you talking about? Nobody in the world has ever suggested that God should be out of every aspect of our lives.
Your manner of debate is common on your "side". You attempt to debase the other side by attributing to them totally ludicrous statements or policies which they have never said nor suggested. It is meant to make the other side look utterly "wacko" as you put it. But the fact is that your assertion comes out of your butt and not from anything anybody has ever said.
Jim,
show me where it says absentee ballots account for 40% of voting in this country...I'm sure it is for Oregon or 1 county. I want to see the number for the entire country...probably much closer to your 14%
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