Monday, May 15, 2006

Reaction to Bush's speech...

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Probably not the bite that conservatives really want, but atleast it is a sign that the President is going to try and move away from the Left, atleast for a min.

Securing the border should be priority ONE...it doesn't matter what you do with the people that are already here unless you stop more people from coming here...

I agree that things need to be made hard on illegals, but the guest worker program will not "deter" others from coming...throwing them in jail along with their employers would...

Loved the assimilation part of the speech. If these people really love America and want to be successful, then they should learn how to speak English and become apart of society....I know liberals are going to hate that. If these people learn how to speak English and get better jobs, what will they need the DNC for anymore?

Just like social security reform, well have to see what actually HAPPENS...

CNN must have been mad that the President might do something to get poll numbers back up a bit, so they did this:

CNN Cuts Early to President Bush


fair and balanced, isn't it Rhyno?

13 comments:

Charlie said...

I was impressed with the President's speech. The second half, the call for comprehensive legislation, sounded almost identical to the compromise bill in the Senate right now.

Jim said...

Game,

Off topic, but here is an interesting article in the SF Chronicle about a conservative black writer, Shelby Steele. It was an interesting read for me, and fits, I think, your view. Not a lot I could argue against, but not the entire picture either.

Not So Black and White

The Game said...

great article..(why nothing about the speech)

I agree 100 percent...of course no one can single handedly solve minority problems in one speech, but I agree this guy Steele and Cosby are sending the ONLY message and only plan that can save the inner cities

Frederick said...

Although tonight wasn't exactly, "... the first fully televised political suicide in history," (I thought that was Dean anyways)it did nothing for Bush politically. What it really illustrated is just how far a lame duck can coast on a broken wing. (That wasn't to close to that name calling you were talking about was it?)

The only way we are going to stem the northward flow of illegal immigrants is to foster policy that makes the place they are leaving better. Anything else we do, build a wall,deploy troops, yada, yada, is just sticking your finger in the intern, whoops, I mean in the dyke.

That's why, as you may have noticed, I do not claim the mantle, "Liberal" at my site. I believe in cutting things off at the source. For instance, why spend 4 billion on a war on drugs and do little or no damage, when you could spend 1 billion on a subsidized/buyout at the farmer level of all the coca produced in Columbia and slow the incoming drugs to a trickle. That's the way I look at things.

Jim said...

Regarding the speech, I didn't hear or see it. I did hear that Congress passed some time back funds for 2,000 additional border guards, but the administration has only funded about 200.

I think more effort should be placed on technological solutions and less on people who are supposed to be available for national disaster and not serving multiple tours in the middle east.

Bush is in a tough spot, many actually. He can't please his political base at the same time that he pleases his financial base. He doesn't need votes anymore, so I imagine he'll help out those who financed his campaigns.

Jim said...

P.S. Thanks for checking out my suggested reading.

jhbowden said...

I thought the Bush speech was excellent. Bush spelled out reasonable, middle-of-the-road steps that will reform immigration on our southern border.

I'm skeptical it will satisfy the Bush-haters on the left and the right, though. But hey, if the Congress passes something similar, I'll be a happy camper for the time being.

Poison Pero said...

I agree with Fred's first paragraph (that's it though).....Which shows how bad Bush tanked it tonight.

No Border Wall = No Plan!

The Republicans will turn on him, and the Democrats will fight him simply because it's what they do....The Five Point Plan will soon revert to "NO PLAN"

Another Harriett Miers moment.

Anonymous said...

Yeah....I see what you mean. Thats the first network fuck up ever.

kevin said...

I Linked
this post in my Bush speech round up.

kubasio said...

We can be critical of the speech. Deploying troops but not allowing them to actually do anything is kind of weak. In addition, what is wrong with building a fence? Let's build a fence along the whole border and just get the border secured!

The Game said...

ave joe makes a good point...
Why do people say that wouldn't secure the border...if you build a wall that people can't cut wholes in, no more illegal immigration...atleast it will take away option number one, then you can focus on option two or three....which are much harder.

I also agree that is Mexico wasn't a piece of shit so many wouldn't want to leave...but until there are some people who want reform, we can do NOTHING to help them...it would be like Africa..every single dollar we would send there would be taken by corrupt leaders.

Dedanna said...

out of the mouths of babes... my daughter said several years ago when she asked me what nafta was:

"well, maybe if we quit funding poor, poor mexico, then mexico wouldn't be so poor, poor any more..."

something a parent would say about their kids i guess. tough love. if we don't help them, and if we make them work for what they have, maybe they would actually grow up to be fine citizens...