A group of Senate Democrats is growing increasingly angry about Sen. Joe LiebermanÂ’s (D-Conn.) campaign tactics since he lost the Democratic primary last week.
If he continues to alienate his colleagues, Lieberman could be stripped of his seniority within the Democratic caucus should he defeat Democrat Ned Lamont in the general election this November, according to some senior Democratic aides.
In recent days, Lieberman has rankled Democrats in the upper chamber by suggesting that those who support bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq by a certain date would bolster terroristsÂ’ planning attacks against the U.S. and its allies. He also sparked resentment by saying last week on NBCÂ’s Today show that the Democratic Party was out of the political mainstream.
Correct and correct. In cases of taxes, gay marriage, abortion, voter ID, border control and immigration policy...the Left is far out of the mainstream...
Luckily the Left has the nightly news to tell people what the mainstream is, so no one notices how far Left they dem's really are.
Taxes: libs keep saying that the Right only wants tax cuts for the rich, no one buys that, people like to keep more of their own money, and they sure as hell don't want to give it to the govt so another lazy low life can get more welfare...
Gay marriage: opposed by over 65% of the country, loved by 100% of liberals.
abortion: liberals oppose any restrictions and will not even get rid of partial birth abortion...almost NO ONE is for partial birth in the real world...only at the DNC
Voter ID: Liberals and the ACLU keep fighting it, 80% of America wants it...
border and immigration: Americans want strienforcementent of the law apunishish illegals, liberal governments keep trying to do things like give illegals drivelicensesces.
Oh and remember America...when you vote for a Dem in November, you are going to get another liberal loss in a war, impeachment and investigations...
Allowing Lieberman to retain his seniority could put the senator now running as an independent in charge of the Senate’s chief investigative committee. If Democrats took control of either chamber they would likely launch investigations of the White House’s handling of the war in Iraq and homeland security.
Friday, August 18, 2006
Dem angst escalates
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There is only one issue that matters these days, and that is stopping the global Islamist movement.
The Dems either don't acknowledge the movement exists, or perceive it as relatively benign, despite the thousands of people butchered on 911. Lieberman agrees with the Democrats 90% of the time and has strongly criticized Bush on his handling of the war, but was singled out since he doesn't want to outright appease Islamofascists.
With issues like gay marriage-- people might feel one way or another about it, but we need to consider intensity of belief and the priority of issues. I'm not convinced that many people give a damn about the issue, or rank it above security issues.
just adding to all the other issues they try and remain silent about because no one agrees with them
this lieberman thing might be a good sign that the Left will figure out how to lose again
Shorter jason: I'm soooo scared! Do what I say or we will all die! I know what I'm talking about!
Game: go read www.polling report.com and read the whole thing and then decide who is part of the mainstream and who is at the fringes.
That said I always loved a rebel! :-)
But not frightend paranoid ones. That kind is dangerous.
Jason said,
"The Dems either don't acknowledge the movement exists..." Bullshit.
"... or perceive it as relatively benign, despite the thousands of people butchered on 911." Bullshit.
If it's not Bullshit, prove me wrong.
Jim, I am glad I am not the only one totally confused by his wild rants. Not much he says makes sense to me.
I'm not impressed with Jason's citing the great philosophers and thinkers of the last 100 years. It doesn't matter. We all understand that radical muslims pose a threat to the interests of the United States. We get that. I get that. Do yo get that, Ron? Good, I knew you would.
What we also get is that the policies of the Bush administration are making things worse instead of better. The performance and execution of their "war on terror" is totally incompetent, ineffective, ill-conceived, and increasingly harmful to America.
Let me ask you, Jason and Game, when you found out that a plot to blow up airplanes flying from Britain to the US was foiled by MI5, at what point did you heave a sigh of relief, raise you eyes toward heaven and say, "That God we invaded Iraq!"?
Jim, thats the deal. Why cant we talk about how many things we can do to keep America safe and what the best use of our money is instead of how few? If we could do that I am sure we could all agree on a number of things and do that now. The rest we could continue to debate The narrow thinking in this country is what is putting us at risk, not the librls.
no ron, you and the rest of the Left DONT get it...you get mad when we listen to terrorist talk on the phone, you want to run away in Iraq
To be quite point-blank honest game, that is not the issue.
The issue about the NSA wiretapping is not as to whether they're listening in on terrorist talk or not, it's whether the system is being abused by listening in on innocents, too. You've been told this too many times. Quit spouting off when you don't even listen, and you keep repeating the same crap -- and it is crap.
Let's put it this way: If they're just listening to terrorist talk, that's one thing. But they're not stopping there. AND, in case you really haven't been listening and are really misinformed, your comment above is out-dated; a judge just yesterday ruled the whole program is illegal. So shut up about it. It's done, it's over. Move on.
show me how ANY of Bush's programs are being abused? They are not...the only problem is liberals and terrorist...
That's why all cell phones are being listened in on; that's why all of the i-net is being tracked, let's see... I could go on and on...
As I said, it's moot now anyway. It's flat-ass illegal. Doesn't matter what anyone thinks about it.
Jim--
My proof: Ron. Dedanna. Rhyno.
If I suggest that we take action against those who want to kill us, Democrats claim that one is giving in to fear. Dangerous individuals may not make you guys anxious, but I at least ask that the danger be recognized.
To take an example, someone like Ahmadinejad promising to wipe nations off the map during the coming Apocalypse while developing nuclear weapons is not someone to remain indifferent about.
If don't remain on offense against the global jihad, the battlefield will move to Europe and North America.
Unlike tolerant Democrats, I find this consequence intolerable.
1) I am not democrat, for the last time.
2) "Let's put it this way: If they're just listening to terrorist talk, that's one thing. But they're not stopping there. AND, in case you really haven't been listening and are really misinformed, your comment above is out-dated; a judge just yesterday ruled the whole program is illegal. So shut up about it. It's done, it's over. Move on."
AGAIN. Learn to read --
Jason you again sound like the jahadists. Do you actually listen to what they say? Do it and then look in the mirror son.
I actually hope the Acopyalypse comes soon.
It will wipe all you bullshitting hypocrits off the map --
PRAISE THE LORD.
Jason said:
"If I suggest that we take action against those who want to kill us, Democrats claim that one is giving in to fear. Dangerous individuals may not make you guys anxious, but I at least ask that the danger be recognized."
Jason, I don't know how many times in how many ways this must be said to you before it sinks in. We recognize the danger. We disagree on how to contain or minimize it. We don't think it will ever totally go away.
I have a wasp nest in my back yard. I'm going to get some wasp killing product at the store and carefully apply it to the wasp nest to kill the wasps and remove the nest.
I am not going to light a stick of dynamite and set it next to the nest. That may get rid of the wasps, but at what cost?
I'm not going to throw a stick of dynamite in the back yard of my neighbor across the street. That will not do a thing about my wasps and it will piss the hell out of my neighbor and probably several other neighbors as well.
So I'm going to try a sensible approach that will probably be very effective. I don't have to prove to the neighborhood that I have big balls. (Or that I am morally superior.)
Jim,
What sensible approach would you suggest? I hear this type of thing often, but when I ask how one fends of an attacker intent on seeing you dead, what do you do? Please don't say diplomacy, the prick wants to kill you, now, if not sooner, and he wants to do it by tying you up and hacking off your head. This is the mentality we face in this war. On top of that, they see their deaths in the war as a beautiful thing. So how would you like to see us fight an enemy like this? I'm all ears. Sincerely so.
dedanna,
How are they "not stopping there"? It's my understanding that they are only concerned with the bad guys and when they find a subject is clean they move on. It's a simplistic explanation, but it's a blog. What do know, and I mean "KNOW", that proves otherwise?
Marshall, when they come to your door, I'll be right there beside you with a shotgun. Hell, I'll be on the beaches when they try to come ashore. I'll spend my tax dollars on military action if Iran or Iraq or Syria sets one foot over the border of an ally, or even masses on that border with clear intent to invade.
But I don't believe in pre-emption based on ideology and speculation. There must be clear capability and clear intent.
I just care about what comes across and within the U.S. borders -- the rest can and should fend for themselves.
"when they come to your door"
Have we forgotten already? I vaguely remember something a few years ago about Islamofascists flying airplanes into the Pentagon, both World Trade Center Towers, and attempted to get the Capitol.
But I really haven't paid much attention, since Michael Moore tells me "there is no terrorist threat." All is well!
Jason, I remember that, too. By the way, have we caught the guys responsible for it?
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