Before we look at the words of an intelligent person, lets think about what the liberals do when their boy is shown to be what he is, a terrible president.
Clinton didn't do anything about any issue that was presented in his time. Nothing on terror. I love how Jim considers an acceptable response to mutliple terror attacks on America and the creation of a terror organization that planned attacks to kill 3000 americans while clinton was president to lob a few missles here and there. Jim and the other liberals better never, ever again make a comment on what we are doing in the middle east since they consider such a worthless use of the military acceptable. They are all political hacks who defend a man who pretty much did nothing. All they can do is type the word neocon, liar and bullshit. Liberals should understand the actual meaning of the world liar since their last president was a compulsive liar.
and now a few facts to refute Clintons compulsive lying:
"The notion somehow for eight months the Bush administration sat there and didn't do that is just flatly false - and I think the 9/11 commission understood that," Rice said during a wide-ranging meeting with Post editors and reporters.
"What we did in the eight months was at least as aggressive as what the Clinton administration did in the preceding years," Rice added.
The secretary of state also sharply disputed Clinton's claim that he "left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy" for the incoming Bush team during the presidential transition in 2001.
"We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al Qaeda," Rice responded during the hourlong session
wait, I just remembered something Clinton did do....he destroyed our intelligence agency with all his liberalism and PC lawyer rules and regulations. You guys are right, he did do something.
Tuesday, September 26, 2006
RICE BOILS OVER AT BUBBA
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So, you had to post #6?
Jesus, you don't know when to quit, do you?
There has to be something else of interest to debate and read, game.
We shall see...
The lame and blind comments of rhyno, jim and others just amazes me. This isn't hard stuff, but simple things often cause them headaches
Dedanna,
Oh, you don't like the truth shoved in your face as much as you shove your liberal delusions in other people's faces?
I shouldn't ask you hard questions. You just like to throw comments and run.
Let's see how big a hypocrite you are. Do you lock your doors and windows to keep out people? If yes, you are a huge hypocrite when you advocate for open borders, no round up and return of illegal aliens, and wish to abolish legal sanction for entering this country illegally.
Y'know what, pcd? I'm not even going to dignify you with a response, because you don't even know what you're talking about. As game knows, I'm not a liberal. I just call things as they are. You're not worth my time or effort, you know so little.
When you have the balls to figure out who's who and what's what here at this blog, and know who and what you're talking to here, then you might be worth some kind of reaction. Until then, you're not. Pure and simple.
Dedanna does tend to be liberal on almost every issue...
but I really dont see her defending clinton or trying defend clinton by simply saying everything is bush's fault...that is left up to Jim and Ron.
and I have to admit she is correct on the border issue...
pcd, you are doing a great job overall here...but I have to call them like I see them, and dedanna can not be yelled at for her border security stance...
Neither can I be yelled at for my stance on how children should be disciplined strongly, nor can I be yelled at for my stance on education, or for my stance on lack-of-laws-for-pervs, nor can I be yelled at for...
The list goes on. But than you for the credit you do see.
Sorry, that's /thank you/
Oh yeah, abortion's one, too.
Speaking of the illegal immigration issue, check this out (from Winter 2004):
Police commanders may not want to discuss, much less respond to, the illegal-alien crisis, but its magnitude for law enforcement is startling. Some examples:
• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.
• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.
• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.
Good luck finding any reference to such facts in official crime analysis.
illegal immigration seems to still be the white elephant in the room
You're spreading bullshit again, Game. None of us has ever said everything is Bush's fault or that Clinton is blameless. We merely and very easily refute your assertion of the opposite.
Rice's comments are "a few facts to refute Clinton's lying"? That's almost more bullshit than I can endure.
Rice is a documented liar:
CLAIM: "In four hours of private discussions with the commission in January, Ms. Rice was asked about statements she made in 2001 and 2002 that 'we could not have imagined' that terrorists would use aircraft as weapons by piloting them into buildings. She told the commission that she regretted those comments." - NY Times, 4/6/04
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/07/politics/07PANE.html
FACT: Even after telling the 9/11 Commission in January of 2004 she regretted her 2002 denials, Rice proceeded to tell the exact same lie just three months later in a March 22, 2004 Washington Post op-ed. In the piece, she again falsely claimed "we received no intelligence that terrorists were preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as missiles."
CLAIM: "Rice told the commission in the private session that she should have said, 'I could not have imagined," according to one official familiar with the testimony, making it clear that some in the intelligence community knew about those threats but that she did not. 'Information about possible use of airplanes as missiles to destroy buildings was not briefed to her prior to that statement in May 2002,' Mr. McCormack said." - NY Times, 4/6/04
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/07/politics/07PANE.html
FACT: Even if Rice missed all 12 previous intelligence reports noting "that terrorists might use airplanes as weapons," it is impossible for Rice to claim she had no knowledge of such a plot, considering she accompanied the President to the 2001 G-8 Summit in Genoa, where she and the Administration were explicitly warned that "Islamic terrorists might attempt to kill President Bush and other leaders by crashing an airliner" into the summit. - LA Times, 9/27/01; NY Times, 4/4/04
Claim: Rice repeatedly stated that the aluminium tubes could only be used for centrifuges for uranium enrichment. She knew however that the US. Dept. of Energy and the State Deprart disagreed strongly with this statement.
So many more and so little time.
Nothing that Rice can say should be cited as "truth". She is a liar.
The latest lie. Well, I think it's the latest. It's been a couple of days:
In her interview with the New York Post, Condoleezza Rice claims that the Clinton Administration did not develop a strategy to fight al Qaeda:
"The secretary of state also sharply disputed Clinton’s claim that he “left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy” for the incoming Bush team during the presidential transition in 2001.
“We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al Qaeda,” Rice responded during the hourlong session."
Here’s what the 9/11 Commission Report has to say about it:
As the Clinton administration drew to a close, Clarke and his staff developed a policy paper of their own [which] incorporated the CIA’s new ideas from the Blue Sky memo, and posed several near-term policy options. Clarke and his staff proposed a goal to “roll back” al Qaeda over a period of three to five years …[including] covert aid to the Northern Alliance, covert aid to Uzbekistan, and renewed Predator flights in March 2001. A sentence called for military action to destroy al Qaeda command-and control targets and infrastructure and Taliban military and command assets. The paper also expressed concern about the presence of al Qaeda operatives in the United States.” [p. 197]
Heard any more good ones lately?
Dedanna,
Name calling is a true sign that I've hit home with a liberal, because truth is Kryptonite to a Liberal.
Jim goes cherry picking, but not in Door County, but in the NIE and the 9/11 commission report to spin a lie out of what was really said. Haw sad, and how low Jim has to go to try to win a point.
No, name calling shows nothing but your own immaturity.
It also shows your own ignorance, in particular when you call the wrong names.
As I said, you need to be doing anything but blogging. At the very least, you need to be made to do some homework on who's who and what's what here.
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