Thursday, September 28, 2006

When Ann talks there is nothing I can add....this perfectly written speech is about Clinton's lying on FOX

Clinton shouted so many lies during his televised meltdown, only the World Wide Web can capture them all. These are just a few. Clinton yelled at Wallace: "What did I do? What did I do? I worked hard to try to kill him. I authorized a finding for the CIA to kill him. We contracted with people to kill him. I got closer to killing him than anybody has gotten since." This is so crazy it's worthy of an Air America caller. Clinton has consistently misrepresented the presidential directive about political assassinations. Clinton did not order bin Laden assassinated. He did not even lift the ban on intelligence agencies attempting to assassinate bin Laden. What he did was lift the ban on political assassinations — provided that assassinating bin Laden was not the purpose of the mission. So if U.S. forces were engaged in an operation to capture bin Laden, but accidentally killed him, they would not be court-martialed. Clinton said, "All the right-wingers who now say I didn't do enough said I did too much — same people." As proof, he cites his humiliating withdrawal from Somalia, claiming, "They were all trying to get me to withdraw from Somalia in 1993 the next day after we were involved in 'Black Hawk down,' and I refused to do it." He added, as if it mattered, "There is not a living soul in the world who thought that Osama bin Laden had anything to do with 'Black Hawk down.'" In fact, what Republicans objected to was Clinton's transforming a U.N. mission in Somalia to prevent mass starvation into a much grander "nation-building" exercise — something the Democrats now hysterically support in Darfur and oppose in Iraq. Democrats long to see American mothers weeping for their sons lost in a foreign war, but only if the mission serves absolutely no national security objectives of the United States. If we are building a democracy in a country while also making America safer — such as in Iraq — Democrats oppose it with every fiber of their being. When Clinton's "nation-building" in Somalia led to the brutal killing of 18 Americans, some of whose corpses were then dragged through the streets, Clinton did what the Democrats are currently demanding we do in Iraq: He cut and ran. Republicans didn't like that either, and it had nothing to do with whether it was al-Qaida we were running from. It could have been Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, al-Dawa or the Viet Cong. We ran, and the terrorists noticed. Osama bin Laden told "ABC News" in 1998 that America's humiliating retreat from Somalia emboldened his jihadists: "The youth were surprised at the low morale of the American soldiers and realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat." If this is the message that Clinton is hoping to telegraph to the American people, I hope the voters are listening

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

You keep right on quoting Ann Colture. The majority of America sees her for what she is - a pandering sophist specializing in divisive demogoguery that reinforces the existing beliefs of the easily led.

The very idea that she "speaks perfectly" for you is proof positive that your on-line tabloid isn't worth a return visit.

Before I go, is it safe to assume that the extreme right-wing Colture-Republicans are still obsessing about Bill Clinton because of the abysmal failure that is the Bush Administration?

(A rhetorical question for two reasons: 1) Coulter-Republicans wouldn't criticize Bush if he broke down their door and urinated on their children, and 2) I haven't the SLIGHEST inclination to return to this tabloid to read any more of your drivel.)

November 2006 - Democratic Majority in the House AND Senate. America is REJECTING Ann Colture Republicans and their hate-filled agenda

Ron said...

Some good points bill.
1. Did Jimmy Carter blame Ford or Nixon for his problems? Did Clinton blame Bush sr? NO! The right is full of whiner victims who talk about personal responsibility but actually have none of their own.

2. Go to some well known liberal blogs and see if you find anybody defending the democrats all the time in all ways. Nope they are beating the tar out of the Dems right now. You will NEVER see that on a rightist blog. They are sheeple first and last and always.

Lil orphan anne speaks only to peoples rage(actually that is true of all of the rightist pundits). Not to their innate problem solving ability...that is if they have any.

Anonymous said...

There is a reason Oral Annie and her ilk only pander to the deluded....her rants and arguments just dont hold water. Yes, sometimes she is funny, but the insecure rage she exposes in herself just gets tiresome. This article is just more of the same.

PCD said...

ron and rhyno,

2 immature leftists preaching factless rants in hopes they can fool someone to agree with them today.

Clintonistas DO NOT accect blame or even consider anything that proves Bill an ineffectual liar as a fact. North Korea getting the bomb was facilitated by Clinton's do nothing approach to terror.

Liberal blogs warm the heart of Josef Goebels in Hell.

jhbowden said...

I'm in the center on this, like my main man Rudy Giuliani. I'm not going to blame Clinton, and I'm not going to go on a jihad against our noble and righteous mission in Iraq either.

jhbowden said...

ron--

"They are sheeple first and last and always."

You're a clown. I've disagreed on Republicans on a number of issues, including immigration, abortion (I think abortion is awesome), the environment, the decision to enter Iraq, creationism masquerading as science in the schools, and the death penalty.

The entire notion of "sheeple" is an infantile version of the Marxist idea of false consciousness. No one can have rational disagreements in a democratic society to socialists. Those who oppose their failed agendas a priori must be brainwashed by fascists, which in the leftist Chumsky-worshipping mind are not collectivists but those who run businesses effectively, delivering a quality product at low cost.

PCD said...

Long as we are pointing out propaganda, let's look at Air America scamming the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls club for $875,000. Here's one link: http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2005/07/federal-funds-diverted-to-air-america.html

Radio Equalizer factually has followed this story and reports again today on the latest weasel turns by (Sc)Air America.

I never see any truth or admission that (Sc)Air America was a scam and a propaganda organ of lies from you on the left.

The Game said...

ron is a clown. He simply says things out of the liberal sheeple playbook enough though they don't apply here.
This blog has drilled Bush, the House, and Mark Green when necessary. That doesn't fit Ron's template so he ignores it.

Marshal Art said...

" I've disagreed on Republicans on a number of issues, including immigration, abortion (I think abortion is awesome), the environment, the decision to enter Iraq, creationism masquerading as science in the schools, and the death penalty."

Wow, Jason. I had no idea. I'm particularly concerned about the "abortion is awesome" comment. I know it strays off topic, but I'd really like an explanation for THAT one. If you don't mind.

Marshal Art said...

Too bad bill orally ain't coming back (so he says). I would like for him to say what he found in error in Coulter's column. I would like for him to explain how she's divisive in her speech. It's true she pisses people off, but one needn't speak falsely to piss off the left.

There aren't really that many who are obsessed with Bubba, but now he's back in the spotlight (as if he ever leaves) because of his whiney interview with Wallace. If you think he can spout off without anyone from the right stepping in to clarify, rebutt or flat out call him on a lie, you're nutty.

As to orally's rhetorical question, we would even criticize Bush if he broke down ORALLY'S door and pissed on HIS children. And could anyone please tell me where the "hate" is in the Republican party? I ain't seein' it.

Anonymous said...

One word for pcd. DELUDED

Dont try and spin this like a Con, either. Go away with a stitch of dignity while you still can.

jhbowden said...

marshall--

Some may consider me to be a neocon, but I'm definitely not a theocon.

Abortion is downright desirable in cases of rape and incest, can be used to kill fetuses with severe deformities, and is needed in rare cases to protect the life of the mother. Before 22 weeks, before any significant fetal brain activity is online, the procedure is not controversial in any way and the autonomy of women does not enter the picture.

If one looks at the data, only a tiny fraction of all abortions occur after 20 weeks-- in the leftwing U.K., the number is about 1.5%. In the United States, 86.7% of abortions were conducted at or prior to 12 weeks, 9.9% from 13 to 20 weeks, and 1.4% at or after 21 weeks. So while Roe v Wade is an inherently unconstitutional decision, the efforts of pro-life radicals should be spent on better activities, like painting, fantasy football, or sleeping in on Sundays.

jhbowden said...

The American data is from 2002, the UK data from 2004.

Marshal Art said...

Oh yeah, "theocon". That's the new word now. I like it. Theocratic-conservative I suppose. That's me. It's meant to throw a scare, I believe, but it IS rather descriptive. I think I'll get a few T-shirts printed.

Anyway...

I'm sure you must have read at least part of my long-winded abortion rant in another thread. My POV is totally science-based and any connection to my faith is only due to mandates such as "Thou shalt not murder". So even without God in the mix, science and logic support the outlawing of abortion in about 99% of the cases it is used. And speaking of deformities, just today I saw a brief article, actually a couple of before and after pics with brief text, of a poor child with an incredibly deformed face. It looked, and this is no exaggeration, as if she had a bowling ball in her mouth. The front of her face was HUGE, like a freakin' cartoon. Some kind of bone swelling thing. The next pic showed her after surgery and you'd never have known of her problem. She still needs further work to complete her cosmetics, but the change is night and day. The point is, that deformities can be dealt with. It's unfortunate that anyone would be "put out" by dealing with what usually is far less severe than the above example, but it is a human being we're talking about. The same goes for rape and incest. Oh, I have no doubt that wackin' the kid is desirable in those cases, but killing certain adults is as well. Human beings all. Right from the moment of conception. Not an opinion, a biological fact.

Marshal Art said...

BTW, I'm not sure what you meant by "not controversial in any way" regarding early term abortions. Human beings, dude. We can't determine one's humanity by skin color, national origin, IQ, number of limbs, number of cells, brain waves, height, whether it has, as an embryo, attached to the uterine wall, or favors the designated hitter rule. It's a human being, therefor, it's controversial at best.

jhbowden said...

Marshall--

I don't care if a zygote is a human being. I want to know why it should be a locus of rights.

Mr. Buzzcut said...

I don't care if a zygote is a human being. I want to know why it should be a locus of rights.


Because she/he exists and is Human and as such has the first right: not to be aggressed against.

Mr. Buzzcut said...

Marshall --

Drive thru abortions are an article of faith for those who yearn for responsibility free intercourse.

Gals don't have to come to term and guys can screw anyone they want.

It's liberating for the libertines. Actions have no consequences. Do whatever feels good.

Marshal Art said...

What Buzz said.

You seem to regard the zygote in the same manner as one who would murder another who "gets in my way". This is indeed the same attitude that leads to 99% of abortions. As the unborn might possibly still be microscopic in size, this somehow is held as rationalization for the act. Thus, it parallels the attitudes of Nazis and KKK members. Bad form.

Dedanna said...

Definitely.

I still fail to see, even if one considers the zygote to not be a life yet, how it still could not be considered to be murder if one kills it. Without the zygote there is no life, so in essence one is killing life. Without the zygote, there is no human being. It is the beginning of life, and the purpose for it is to bring forth life, even if that life is not to fruition immediately.

*shakes head*

How can anyone not see this?

And, for those who think that abortion's just another form of birth control, or who treats it like it is, then that's some pretty damned expensive birth control for something that can be prevented in the first place, aye?

Nope, use regular birth control. Abortion is surgery, and it kills. Prevent the pregnancy in the first place.

FYI: They call it pregnancy for a reason. It's because the mother is carrying a life from the time she conceives.

Dedanna said...

FYI also:

They call it "conception" for a reason too --

Because one "conceives" a life.

Use any other words you want, whether they're scientific or not, and you still can't get away from a fact that it's a life from the beginning of conception.

Marshal Art said...

But Dedanna, they've redefined preganancy. Now, the left says you're pregnant if the embryo is attached to the uterine wall. So what comes before is meaningless to them. How convenient! So those birth control pills, that often work after conception, haven't ended a pregnancy, but prevented one by their new definition. See how that works? It's a typical lefty technique called "framing" or "re-framing". Turn what is into something it isn't in order to prove your point.

Dedanna said...

I've seen the righties do it too marshall so don't go there, okay? It's both.

At any rate, like I said, I don't care what words are used, how people want to twist things, a life is a life is a life from the time of conception, and everyone needs to wake up to this fact. 'nuff said.

Marshal Art said...

I know where you coming from, Dedanna, but you're not quite there yet (semantics, really). It's HUMAN life, and that's an important distinction. It won't grow up to be anything else.

Jason,

Not to belabor the issue, though I have no problem doing it, to not consider the "zygote" worthy of all the rights of any other human, you are, in effect, dismissing it because of it's size. It's akin to putting Mickey Rooney to death because he never reached 5'5" (or whatever), or a dwarf or midget for that matter.

Dedanna said...

There's another way to look at it:

It's (abortion) part of the throw-away convenience society.

Don't like it? Not convenient enough for you? Throw it away.

Doesn't mean it's right to do so.

Man, I hate that mentality.