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19 comments:
If the poll is accurate, which I doubt, then nearly half the country is a lot lonlier than they have to be. A little faith can fill a God-sized hole in a heart.
Maybe there isn't a helluva lot these days to believe in. Ever think of that?
I think it's telling how this was reported. The headline could have read "Majority is “certain” God exist”.
I’ll try to find the actual poll. One such poll I saw in the past interpreted a positive answer to the question “have you ever doubted the existence of God” as meaning you’re now not sure God exist.
I have seen polls that say over 75% of people think God exists as well...this poll is probably crap
I'm not uncertain on the matter of whether gods exist. I'm certain they do not. Children's stories have no place in the 21st century.
From most of the numbers I've seen, the percentage of "athiests" in this country is 10-15%, though it is probably more like 5-10% once the retarded Wiccans and spiritualist earth-worshippers are subtracted out.
You're a smart guy, Jason. I mean that sincerly. You should spend a little time researching the subject. There's no absolute proof, but there's tons of support for the existence of God.
As an aside, certainty removes the need for faith. If one is sure, tone doesn't need faith. Certainty, or lack thereof, is irrelevant to one's belief in God. To question one's belief is normal and extremely common.
Who gives a shit? Leave it for the churches to work out. This shouldnt even be a social issue. Oh, and marshall, that support is called faith. There is nothing to support the existence of ANY religion. We all support our beliefs through faith, and faith alone.
Rhyno,
Did I properly understand that you're a teacher? God help the kids before you if that is true. I would think someone honestly concerned about the truth or at least the truth of what I said would ask for support for my statements rather than just crap on them as if you have all the answers. Your statement suggests no serious look at the issue. Thus, stuff a sock in it. There is plenty to support the Judeo-Christian understanding and no ancient figure has the manuscript evidence as does Christ. So if you don't believe anything about Him, you have far less available to support your beliefs about anyone who came before Him.
Wait, I know. You'd call them Democrats, right?
Gotta give you credit, jason. That was as bad of a fuck-up as Kerry's! Takes a lot to get there!
dedanna
Your right, Jason shouldn't have used the word "retarded". Pitifully gullible is more accurate.
Wasn't talking to the other discriminator, blamin.
dedanna,
I've studied much about the “Earth Goddess”, the “Left-hand Way” and other such nonsense. They’re popular because they appeal to people’s ego and desires. Like much such sly crap, they weave lies with half-truths and truths, stroke the reader’s egos, and dupe those who aren’t near as intelligent as they believe they are.
That's your opinion.
I'm very well read about it also, and know many who are wiccan, etc.
I happen to know different from what you say.
I don't care about your comments -- as I said I wasn't talking to you above anyway. Stay out of people's direct debates, ok? It's theirs and no one else's, and is a primary "unspoken rule" of debate.
This was not to you or anyone else, other than who was mentioned in my post.
It's a free forum Dedanna. No one is exempt from rebuttal from any corner for things posted. Game can correct me if I'm mistaken. If you want direct one on one, perhaps your opponent would OK direct contact to his email address.
When someone says something directly to a person by name, that is not an invite for a response by anyone else. It's more than common courtesy, and is for the most part respected by most. 'nuff said. I wouldn't do that shit to you.
dedanna,
Sorry, but you’re dedead wrong. As MA stated this is an open forum.
It’s like having an argument in a room full of crowded people, if you say something someone disagrees with they may just let you know it (especially if you make a ridiculous claim, like calling someone a discriminating bastard because they were pointing out an unpleasant fact). In other words if you take a private debate public, it’s no longer private.
I'm going to clear some air here; it seems that I have been repudiated harshly for calling how the cow at the cabbage here.
What (everything) I said here was in direct response to Jason's post:
retarded Wiccans and spiritualist earth-worshippers are subtracted out.
You don't bash people of other religions or sects without hearing from me. I take my faith seriously, and will defend any faith until the day I die.
I can not tolerate discrimation; it is against federal law in the states as a matter of fact. The U.S. Constitution, last I checked, also gives Freedom of Worship guaranteed.
Yes, if I catch wind of comments like this, I will respond to them, and will respond harshly.
--Ded.
A long time ago, when our forefathers climbed down from the trees, there were many things that scared them.
Like other group-living animals, we had/have a submissive streak to prevent fights within the tribe. This submissiveness also appeared when our early relatives saw something that scared them.
Very soon, some found that it was a lucrative business to lead the ceremonies to appease that scary thing.
And if somebody didn't believe, they got something nasty in their food and then the priest/shaman/wise-woman said: See what the Great Ugh Ugh does to those who do not believe.
This has continued and the unbelievers have always been pushed out of the tribe.
Unfortunately, this has given humanity an unlucky genetic trait to believe in this nonsense.
Then came the catholic church with its monasteries. The strongest believers became monks and nuns in these monasteries and due to the celibacy a great deal of this unlucky genetic trait was weeded out during a thousand year period.
This might be an explanation why it is so easy to find bombers willing to sacrifice themselves in some other parts of the world.
Then came the colonization of America, where a lot of religious people left Europe.
This has also made a notable difference between Europe and USA.
Living in Scandinavia, it is a constant surprise to me when I look at American talk-shows, how everybody manages to mix in god in almost everything.
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