What is worse?
Calling someone a faggot or wishing someone was dead?
To liberals, calling (the wrong people) names is the biggest crime of them all...
Wednesday, March 07, 2007
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14 comments:
Thats exactly why all the crocadile tears over Ann's comments is nothing more than the ultimate spin. How transparent and preditctable.
No, I think in their messed up heads they really think that hurting someone's feelings and calling someone names is really really terrible and needs to be stopped
I assume you are falsely claiming yet again that Maher said he wished Cheney was dead. He DID NOT, of course. You know that because you surely have read the transcript I posted here.
So the assertion is a lie.
I just asked a question...and you have to go at this story based on public perception...which is that Coulter said Edwards was a faggot...wrong
and that Mahar said he wanted Cheney dead...wrong
Even though Mahar was very happy about the THOUGHT of Cheney dead...and I watched the video as well to get that...
I think we can all agree that name calling is bad. That's what Mommy told us when we were little kids. Mommy wasn't lying.
The true issue as near as I can tell, is what one side says and means vs. what the other says and means. I maintain that it is a fact, or at least very nearly a fact, that often from the left, we get the kind of name calling that is meant to scare off those who might support the oppostion. Yet, the name calling isn't really based on actual fact, but on perception that is nourished by the name calling. As an example, I offer the perrenial "greedy Republican". This is a baseless accusation that gets way too much play. A recent book, in fact, has based it's theme on the fact that those on the right are typically more generous than those on the left. Still, the phrase is bandied about with abandon.
Compare that to accusations by the right that the left embodies many who are "unAmerican". The right believes many of the the policies and positions of the left are detrimental to our way of life, if not our actual security. This goes for many of their actions, such as the publicizing of administration strategies for fighting terrorism by the NY Times, which are largely supported by most of the left. (the publicizing that is, not the policies of the admin, which the left does not support)
Another comparison is reactions to name calling. The right dismisses most name calling except for demanding support for the charges, while the right jumps on the spewer of epithets with delight at having something to hold against the rightwinger, as oppose to being truly offended by the remark on their own behalf or on behalf of others. Howard Dean's pants-wetting over the Coulter remark leaps to mind. It's hard not to feel certain he's much more concerned with attacking Coulter than he is defending either Edwards or fags, er, the gay community. This is so typical as to be expected in these situations.
Finally, we have the issue of response by one's peers. I don't know of anyone, thought there may have been someone, who has rebuked Pencil Dick Durbin over comments regarding the Gitmo personnel, yet we've heard many conservatives chastise Coulter. (I'm proud to say I'm not one of them.) One is more likely to see a scolding on the right towards a brethren's mere appearance of impropriety, where we see rationalizations of the left for their own.
None of this is hard and fast, but merely a "more than likely" type of thing. Exceptions exist, but aren't the norm.
Jim,
You are the liar if you deny that the Left and many loud mouthed Democrats talk about assassinations of both Presidens Bush, VP Cheney, and other GOP officials.
You can see the hissyfits the Left throws at being tagged for what they are. Look at how you Democrats react to "Hanoi Jane", or calling Kerry and Kennedy traitors for dealing with and advocating for enemies of the US.
Dick Durbin, Dick Durbin, Dick Durbin!
You don't even know what he said, Marshall. I'll bet you don't. I'll bet you never actually read what he said. Have you?
Read the whole thing, not just the NewsMax version.
Jim,
Dick "Dirtbag" absolutely lothes the troops. He's not only compared them to Nazis, but he's dissed them multiple times.
Before you pull out your Think Progress demials, Marshall and I have seen full transcripts over at Sister Toldjah from multiple sources. Better Democraps than yourself have tried to deny it, but have failed no matter how many of Josef Goebbels' tricks they've pulled.
You will interpret it as you wish Marshall.
But I just had an epiphany. I find it interesting that YOU are obviously the one blaming the troops. Because Durbin is not in any way blaming the troops for the conditions. Democrats never do. They blame the chain of command, those truly responsible, you know the old accountability thing?
You, however, clearly are placing the blame for the conditions on the troops because that's who you are implying caused those conditions.
No, you don't get it, Jason. Nobody blamed America for this. They blame Rumsfeld.
Durbin didn't compare American soldiers to anything or anybody. He was referring to conditions described by an FBI agent. The blame rests with the chain of command, not the soldiers. Everybody knows that but you and your brother wingnuts.
From your own link, JimBob:
"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime — Pol Pot or others — that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."
Note the last sentence in particular. Sounds like Pencil's indicting the troops to me. However, I give you kudos for trying to say I was projecting. That's a good one!
In any case, I don't recall anyone on the left rippin' him a new one over it. I shouldn't expect to since it's apparent the left isn't too keen on the "military industrial complex" or some such nonsense.
No one on the left ripped him a new one because everyone on the left understood what he was saying and who was responsible. Not their fault you don't, Marsha. :-)
"...everyone on the left understood what he was saying..."
No - everyone on the right understood exactly what he was saying, because his record, and those like him speaks for itself. The left only feigned to understand after the Master SpinMiester regurgitated it for their consumption. There, there, nice little birdy, mommy will feed you.
I have read before, I just read it again...and its clear that his statements were to compare our soldiers to Pol Pot...PERIOD...how fucking stupid can someone be to not get it
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