Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Fights prompt arrests at Hamilton High

This story brings to light the number one problem in inner city schools and in big city society...parents.
Liberals can throw out all their flavor of the month theories and strategies on how to "fix" schools...
Conservatives can say that public school teachers are over paid and under worked, that they are incompetent and lazy and that is why schools are horrible...
GWB can sign any bill he wants on how to make schools better...
And NONE....NONE....N-O-N-E of it will EVER work as long as the kids who go to school are raised by the people who call themselves "parents"....PERIOD.
End of story, end of discussion...
Our society needs to come down hard on parents and citizens in general. Its time to force people to take responsibility for their lives and the lives of their families. But as long as we have people making excuses for them and trying to pass the next bill that gives more losers more of my money for doing nothing, the worse things are going to get.
What is going to stop the growing number of losers in our society from just going around and breaking into houses at random....pay attention to the news, it is happening more and more all the time.
And white people in the burbs better start caring, because they are making their way out to your house, because you got the money and the nice stuff.
But no, we will keep ignoring that we have a larger and larger group of people who are nothing but a strain and safety hazard in this country....We will keep having "meetings" and candle light ceremonies to stop the violence....
We will continue to implement the newest failed educational strategy....
Were at the point where we are trying to put a band-aid on someone who's head was cut off...

7 comments:

blamin said...

This problem sucks, that's for damn sure. But I don't think we'll ever resolve it by "holding the parents responsible". As attractive as it may sound, I don't think you'll see the government becomeing involved in parental decisions.

So where does that leave us?

Here's a novel approach. How about we as a society start holding people responsible for their own actions. That's right, be it a twelve year old or a thirty year old. Ya, I know, it's probably not fair to punish a child because their parents are slack ass pieces of shit, but at some level a 10/12/15 year old knows when he/she is behaving in an unacceptable manner.

You know the old saying, you have to break a few eggs to make an omlet. And my soul cries out for the youngsters who are being punished because their parents ain't worth a damn -but- we as a hopefully responsible society have to try and fix the problems. After all, what kind of society are we leaving our kids?

Now, just imagine, if we could hold people responsible for their actions, rehabilitate those convicted youngsters whom had trash for parents, and present a unitied front as to what is acceptable, and what isn't, why the results could be beyond hoping for.

Never forget that most children, albeit subconsciously, yearn for guidence and guidlines.

But alas, you have the Jesse's and Al's of the world trying to excuse and justify any anti-social behaviour. And I say that as long as we allow these charlatans (with the full blessings of you know which party) to have a stage, the problems will never be fixed.

Marshal Art said...

Why play games? When some punk commits a crime, punish him AND his parents. That has to be the general rule of thumb. Perhaps in certain cases the parents would be exempt or the kid would be punished less, but overall, I see the need to wake up both to the fact that certain behaviors will not be tolerated. Hey, punish the parents harder if they beat the kid to make him obey. I don't mean spankings or what used to be perfectly acceptable parental discipline, but abusive shit. The law needs to protect the law abiding. The law breakers need to feel the full weight of justice at every infraction, without hesitation, and with extreme prejudice. We may not be able to force parents into being responsible parents, but we can punish them when it's obvious they aren't.

Marshal Art said...

Pardon my rambling. I'm greased and disgusted with myself after blowing the chance for the bowling team's championship with a second game score 40 pins under average. I'm PISSED!!!! Stand back!

blamin said...

Marshall,

That’s a shame about the game. This question begs to be asked: Greased?
I don't know, that term brings up all kinds of weird connotations.

I agree with you on the punishment deal. My point about the parents, it's sometimes difficult to determine when a parent is at fault, for kid’s actions. Note I said sometimes, but by holding people responsible for their own actions we can hopefully grow responsible parents.

I speak from experience here. As I mentioned previously, I have 4 stepsons aged 17 to 21. Their bio father killed himself in their presence when they were in early teens. Well as you probably guessed, their father was a low life piece of shit, but in their eyes he's a hybrid cross between hero and saint. 3 of the 4 boys had no social skills, no idea on how to cope with problems. If anybody disagreed with them on any point, that was grounds for a fight, I mean an actual physical fight. You have no idea how long it took me to make them understand that you can actually disagree with someone without getting angry.

My wife had a few choices regarding these boys, and none of them were attractive. She could not control them. She could commit them into some kind of governmental group home but if you’ve any experience with bureaucratic social workers, you know that wouldn’t help them, not even a little bit. Or she could try her best, and hope some small amount of her positive influence would rub off on them.

My point after that ramble? These boys were in constant trouble for a period of about 8 years. And I promise you, some of their “victims” wanted to blame their mother. But she was doing the best she could. And the “system” kept letting them slide, partially because of the terrible tragedy they had suffered. But as soon as they realized there were going to be consequences for their actions, their attitudes started to change. For the most part anyways.

Marshal Art said...

Blamin,

First, greased means sauced, polluted, three sheets to the wind, in a word, drunk. (You sick S.O.B.)

Secondly, per my drunkin' suggestion, your wife would've gotten a pass for demonstrating her sincere desire to affect change in her sons' behavior. I'm sure there would have been enough support to testify on her behalf.

But frankly, there are probably ten examples for every one like yours where the parent is a large part of the problem. My plan is only a rough sketch anyhow, but the point is that parenting is suffering, even when the kids are great. It simply is work to keep things together, to maintain one's own sense of maturity and responsibility in order to provide what is the best role model: a good parent. So one has a choice of how one suffers---like a mature adult who deals with the consequences of his own actions, that is, properly raising his child, or he can suffer from penalties levied for NOT doing his job. If all reasonable efforts to guide the child fail, that is, the child insists on being an asshole, then only the child will pay the price. (Of course we know that in those cases, the parent still pays a price in sorrow and anguish.)

There may be no way to implement such an idea, but in a perfect world....

The Game said...

The libs can't really comment on this one, because it is their philosophy that is the problem...
It is not the kids fault they act the way they do, its poverty and racism...
We can't suspend kids when they actually deserve it, because ALL kids deserve to learn...
We have to be nice to kids and entertain them, the reason they don't come to school is because school is not fun enough...
Liberals can come here and say they never heard anyone say that...but everything I am saying has been said to me by bleeding heart liberals just this year...

Scorpion said...

Once again the top guy in MPS will look at this and cry for more police and more money to throw at this problem when he should be taking steps to rid MPS of the hoodlums who stop real students from their right to get an education."---hole" Andrekopoulos is the sorriest school leader observed in my continuing observation of where I obtained a fine education forty to fifty years ago. And yes, everyone was poor, no one had a lot of money, yet, rules were obeyed, teachers respected,school work was completed,and we all graduated to go on to college or decent jobs. Why doesn't this still occur today?
Looks like the "family" style small
school setting plans are just another poor choice to replace what was always successful in MPS.
Maybe it's time to stop pacifying the criminal elements in schools and get rid of those students,and parent/guardians who will never be part of following directions.NAH!!
Awful Andy is clueless in this real
need for his school system.