I actually don't care about this specific move. Handcuffs would not magically solve the problem in MPS schools.
However, WHAT is going to be done to stop the flat out chaos that is most MPS buildings.
Sadly, the answer is NOTHING.
We have too many advocates making excuses for these kids, a majority of parents who don't know how to act themselves...and about 75% of students who really have no idea how to act in an educational or social setting, not to mention knowing what level of work it takes to be educated and successful.
What are we going to do?
There are no consequences anymore, and things are not getting better.
I guess anyone who cares about their child's education needs to do what most white people did in the late 1970's.....leave.
Wednesday, May 02, 2007
MPS board repeals handcuff policy
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They did something.The inept school
board made another committee to study the "problem" and report back with possible solutions. Once again, do the math---0+0=schoolboard!!!!!!!
MPS is just making more criminals and strippers. Don't you think there's an abundant supply without making more?
Controlling chaos was never the point with flexcuffs. And anyway, total chaos actually remains rare--though quite spectacular when it happens.
I have a half-written post in my head wondering why MPS parents and the community in general oppose what suburban Milwaukee schools, and urban schools all across the country, already have--namely, police in the schools (who have the authority and training to flexcuff or handcuff a student). I have a theory (which you won't like), but I do wonder what you think.
And when are you going to ban pcd? Seriously, he's just toxic. And not in a good way. There are plenty of spirited debaters among your commenters, but this guy just oozes spite and poisons the healthy back-and-forth.
Ron had a complete piece of shit on his site that makes pcd look like a saint...he did nothing about it, even encouraged it...so I'll follow in Ron's footsteps..
And its not like if a conservative comments on Jay's site the liberals are super super nice...
I think my theory on this is clear...
Anything that is done IN the school is about as effective as trying to stop a water main break with a bucket.
You need to FIX the problem...the problem is the parents and the community the kids come from...its nice to think the newest theory will work, or a cop or two will make kids act correctly...but it won't. And if you answer by saying that there is nothing anyone can do to fix the terrible conditions of the inner city community...then all hope is lost and its time for all hard working people to leave the cities and let the crap that is left burn it down.
Jay,
Just because a Conservative gets in your grille like your moonbats get into everyone's grille doesn't make a reason to censor. You are just an egotistical weenie. You can't take real debate because you can't take opposition. You are just like the military REMFs that are ordering the shutdown of email and blogs of the deployed soldiers.
No matter what it is, Liberals like spoiled children, can't stand reality coming back in their faces.
Oh, Jay, when are you going to man up and admit your lies and also apologize to the game? Probably the same day Hell freezes over.
Blamin,
You just destroyed Jay. He won't be back in this thread. How does it feel to kill the debate?
damn...blamin must not have liked it..
Good point Game.
So.. Jay, do you think we should cut and run from the inner cities?
Obviously it’s a huge waste of tax dollars and inner city terrorist kills countless law abiding citizens and police officers every year. Why, the numbers are appalling, I just wish the press would report the numbers to us every single day. They should, it might make a difference.
This whole war on poverty was started under false pretenses. We were led to believe that throwing money at the problem would make everything “all better”. We were never told that “they” didn’t want the police or our solutions. We were never told they couldn’t handle freedom and responsibility.
We were never told it was all just a ruse to enrich and empower bureaucrats, government officials, leaders of various (___) coalitions, and governmental subcontractors who constantly come up with “new” programs that will “fix” the problems. Even though most of the same people and philosophies whose ideas have never worked, are responsible for creating “new and improved” solutions. And of course we can never look back and point out the actual results of their previous programs.
Oh sure, most of the people in the inner cities are law abiding citizens, who just want to live peacefully. But that’s not our problem.
You may claim if we let the inner city terrorist take over the cities, that it will only embolden them, and they will spread like a cancer, threatening the very lives and prosperity of the rest of the country.
But we all know that’s unmitigated, fear mongering, propagandist, hawkish BS, you’re just trying to rile the people up and trick them in order to line the pockets of yourselves and your friends.
If you don’t understand what is clearly the unvarnished facts, the reality of the situation then you’re obviously a brainwashed puppet!
sorry guys I got a little "click" happy
Game, actually, even the most confrontational of my commenters add to the debate. How does "MPS is just making more criminals and strippers" do anything but insult what you and I do every day? In fact, I can't think of a single thing pcd has written advancing an argument; usually he just calls me a communist and a liar. It may be getting "up in my grille," so to speak, but how am I supposed to have any kind of conversation with that?
And, blamin, I'm not sure what you're getting at. It's long and impassioned and, apparently everyone else thinks you really stuck it to me or something, but, well, no, you didn't. For example,
But we all know that’s unmitigated, fear mongering, propagandist, hawkish BS, you’re just trying to rile the people up and trick them in order to line the pockets of yourselves and your friends.
I have, literally, no frickin' clue what you're talking about here. I haven't said anything about spending any money on myself or or anyone I know or, for that matter, at all. I have advocated, in fact, publicly for both police in the schools and the use of flexcuffs for out-of-control students.
And I think somewhere you're making a clever comparison between the Iraq war and the struggles of US cities, but I don't see how it's either a) germane or b) helpful as an analogy.
I don't know. Maybe I'm stupid (pcd thinks so). But I don't see anything in my comment above that could possibly have spurred that kind of response.
jay
I was merely expanding on a comment made by game. If you don’t get it, it’s only because you don’t want to get it. I don’t think clever is the proper term, I believe obvious is the adjective you’re looking for.
As far as the analogy goes, by using some of the lefts ridiculous arguments against the war in Iraq, I was ceding the point for the sake of this discussion and applying said ridiculous arguments to the inner city problem.
All was done tongue-in-cheek in the hopes (vain I’m sure) to persuade those left of myself that the liberal/socialist policies concerning inner cities, the poor, and their education has been an utter failure, or a disgraceful disaster, depending on how you want to look at it. The left has failed; it’s time to try something different, like a little tough love for instance. Our future depends on it.
To get an education you must try to get an education.You must attend, give an effort,and not expect the work to change to fit your lifestyle,and be watered down so you can look good.So now the chaos can remain until the next study is completed.It will again try to pacify the worst students rather than help those who actually
try to get an education.
Public schools have a lot of problems brought on by political agendas of the teachers' union, of political party activists who are hired as teachers, and the failed liberal culture of the 60s effecting the population as a whole.
No where is emphasized actual learning. Most teachers teach to pass the "No Child Left Behind" requirements, but really short change the kids in doing so. The teachers' union screams for more pay, but without accountability. It also fights against recognition of merit in actually teaching the kids. Longevity seems to be the only requirement for union sponsored awards.
It gets worse when teachers sit on school boards. They protect the teaching as a job mentality most teachers have. What ever happened to teachers notifying the parents when Johnny or Jane isn't turning in their homework or attending classes until they've missed enough to be dropped from school?
I'd like to address the teachers who teach their politics not the lessons. I've seen too much of this, especially from teachers so tied up in their politics that they brag about being on party conference calls rather than the legitimate academic achievement of their students. Read that as excluding grade inflation many teachers us to keep their jobs.
I think this is enough to chew on for now.
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