Here is a perfect quote about global warming:
"To assume that it is a problem is to assume that the state of Earth's climate today is the optimal climate, the best climate that we could have or ever have had and that we need to take steps to make sure that it doesn't change," Griffin said. "I guess I would ask which human beings — where and when — are to be accorded the privilege of deciding that this particular climate that we have right here today, right now is the best climate for all other human beings. I think that's a rather arrogant position for people to take."
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Yeah, I loved that interview.
Let's see...if we're politically on schedule, we are at T-minus 2 weeks before he's attacked as a know-nothing turnip by the left.
Synchronise your watches....................now.
Burn the heretic!
We may not know what the "best" possible climate is. But we can reasonably predict what will happen short- and long-term if warming keeps happening at its present rate. And those predictions show that, in fact, for a place like Wisconsin, we could actually have a better life--less snow, greater crop diversity--though maybe with more mosquitos and bigger electricity bills for the extra month or two of air conditioning.
However, anyplace near a coast below sea level--where hundreds of millions of people currently live--will become unlivable without dramatic changes to their infrastructure.
Would it be "best" for, say, Bangladesh to be a sea instead of a country? Maybe. But try telling that to the 150 million people who live there. I think it would be "rather arrogant" to assume that they'd be okay with it.
that was pure non-sense
"I guess I would ask which human beings — where and when — are to be accorded the privilege of deciding that this particular climate that we have right here today, right now is the best climate for all other human beings."
Said another way, "I guess I would ask which human beings - where and when - are to be accorded the privilege of deciding this particular region is for Americans only, that Mexicans must live in Mexico, that Chinese should live in China."
How arrogant of us to decide that this is the region WE want to live in.
This is the guy who said, "I have no doubt that … a trend of global warming exists. I am not sure that it is fair to say that it is a problem we must wrestle with."
We shouldn't wrestle with rising coastlines, mass migrations of millions of people, famine, and more?
That was pure non-sense? Really? By what factual measure?
jay,
That's the whole problem, we can't "reasonably predict" anything concerning the long term global temperature.
AND - this is most important - there's scant verifiable evidence that humans are having an effect on said warming. Admit it! There are serious questions about the "human caused global warming" theory that have been ignored. Maybe due to lefties suggestion that opposing views on this subject should not even be aired! (Gasp, lefties trying to suppress debate, how could that be?)
Your last two paragraphs are pure apocoliptic nonsense better reserved for a bad fiction movie. Maybe Algore could produce it! Oops, that's right, he allready has.
jim,
I try to give the benefit of doubt, but you're a f'ing nutcase sometimes! Your argument is ludicrous!
There's nothing "arrogant of us to decide that this is the region WE want to live in."
Ya see, even if you live in "Strawberry Fields land" there are people out there that don't share your views. Why, there's even people out there who would forcebly take what is yours, be it property, family, or what have you. Ooops I forget, in your world, there's no such thing as "what's yours". Everything belongs to everybody, in a totally fluid, ever shifting society.
My point, there's nothing wrong with like people with like views banding together and protecting each other, while ensuring safety to those we love and cherish.
"My point, there's nothing wrong with like people with like views banding together and protecting each other, while ensuring safety to those we love and cherish."
Bingo!! You've made my point. Why wouldn't you want to band together to protect those you love and cherish from the adverse effects of catastrophic global climate change? Why wouldn't you want to make efforts to keep your property from being under water, to keep coastal industries from being covered with water, to keep our farmlands from becoming deserts?
OK jim
I guess we could all band together, get on our knees, and beseach the sun to stop being, I don't know, so damn hot maybe?
Our maybe we could enact draconian laws that would curb the immaterial, non-proved, innuendo, that man is materialy affecting global tempature. Thereby causing, inflation, discomfort and needless suffering.
But don't ya know, lefties would feel sooo good about caring, hell that's reason enough!
Global warming???!! Does anybody really think that's more important than preparing for a Martian attack??!!! Get real people!!! We could be zapped at any moment!!!
marshall--
And even if the C02 theory is true, the primitivist cure would still be worse than the disease.
Liberals know it too. That is why we see *no action* on this issue when people like, well, GORE AND CLINTON are in office. The media only does the apocalyptic stuff when Republicans have the executive branch, as if global warming was a Republican policy.
Meanwhile, we have religious fanatics threatening to commit mass suicide on us.
If Jim and Jay can stop playing Chicken Little with their whiny "what ifs" and look at the so-called scientific method of the people making up the political consensus behind the Global Warming hysteria.
First link:
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1603
Second Link:
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1616#more-1616
With crap like this for "observation posts", you'd think Hansen, etc. would be laughed off the stage, but with the GW religion and acolytes like Jim and Jay, they are revered.
Now the head of NASA, Mr. Griffin is on the no GW side.
The longer the hysteria lasts, the more sanguine and sane professionals are coming forward to put down the myths of the GW crowd.
Marshall,
I have a severe need to stockpile Slim Whitman recordings to fend off the Martians.
In case Jim and Jay don't understand, go rent "Mars Attacks!"
the sky is falling, the sky is falling...all I can do is laugh at Jim here...the world is going to end in what, nine years?
game,
I can see Jim running around farmers' fields trying to affix condoms on Bulls and corks in all cattle to stop their methane production. I can also see Jim running for his life after he ticks off the Bull.
"Condoms & corks", now that's a funny picture!
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