Friday, July 13, 2007

House OKs Plan to Withdraw US Troops

Like I have said before, Democrats are the only enemy our country has that has the power to beat us.
EVERY SINGLE military benchmark is being met in Iraq.
But, because political power is more important, traitors like Reid say we have already lost.
Democrats don't have the guts to fight terrorism. If we leave Iraq we will be allowing terrorists a safe place to train and plan attacks.

6 comments:

hashfanatic said...

"Democrats don't have the guts to fight terrorism."

Strange, when you consider that Bill Clinton managed it, and George Bush did not.

"If we leave Iraq we will be allowing terrorists a safe place to train and plan attacks."

As opposed to creating them, and
arming them?

The problem with your whole mindset is that "al-Qaeda" (inasmuch as it exists) don't happen to BE in Iraq. If you were so interested in actually fighting al-Qaeda, you'd advocate an immediate pullout from Iraq, and a reployment to Afghanistan and Pakistan...

The catastrophic operation you support don't line up with the goals you claim to be aiming for, which reveals your loyalty to party over country.

Realism said...

Democrats are the only enemy our country has that has the power to beat us...Democrats don't have the guts to fight terrorism.

Way to elevate the level of discourse, game.

Two can play that game, Game.

Republicans care more about enriching Haliburton and Blackwater than the lives of Iraqis or American soldiers. Did you know that there are actually more civilian contractors than soldiers in Iraq?

As long as Repblicans keep this slo-mo clusterfuck in action, they can steal our tax dollars and give them to corporations.

How can you say that every benchmark is being met when they haven't met ANY of the political benchmarks, you've got sunni's boycotting the government which still hasn't been able to make progress getting basic services like electricity and sewage restored to pre-invasion levels.

Only half of the promised three brigades of iraqi troops have been deployed, and the ones that have are poorly trained an many if not most have more loyalty to their tribal affiliations than to the nation of Iraq.

Thomas Fingar, the top intelligence analyst in the Office of the National Intelligence Director, had this to say:

"The most optimistic projection is that it will be difficult and time-consuming to bridge the political gulf when violence levels are reduced, and they have not yet been reduced significantly"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071102451.html?hpid=topnews

The Game said...

hash...after you said that Clinton managed it and Bush did not I stopped reading. That is such a stupid comment that nothing I say will make sense to you...that is amazing

and realism...I said they met every MILITARY benchmark, and they have...we can not make the Iraqi govt work...they have to do it...and looking back at history they probably wont get it right for another ten years or more...

Chet said...

That is such a stupid comment that nothing I say will make sense to you...that is amazing

Amazing but true, actually. Remember Tim McVeigh? The greatest American terrorist before bin Laden? Caught by Clinton. Remember the first WTC bombers? Caught by Clinton.

Remember the big militia craze? How everybody thought we were going to see more acts like Oklahoma City from these violent militias? Clinton saved who-knows-how-many lives by breaking the backs of the militant militia groups before they had a chance to strike.

That's stuff's all a matter of record. Clinton was even on top of Al-Queda - he even passed a long warnings to the Bush administration, which they ignored.

Until 9/11 - which they could have prevented. Meanwhile, under Bush, there's more terrorism around the world than ever before.

and realism...I said they met every MILITARY benchmark, and they have..

So then it's time for the military to leave, then, isn't it?

looking back at history they probably wont get it right for another ten years or more...

And what? We're supposed to spend billions every year waiting around for ten years?

Realism said...

"In a preview of the assessment it must deliver to Congress in September, the administration will report that Sunni tribal leaders in Anbar province are turning against the group al-Qaeda in Iraq in growing numbers; that sectarian killings were down in June; and that Iraqi political leaders managed last month to agree on a unified response to the bombing of a major religious shrine, officials said.

Those achievements are markedly different from the benchmarks Bush set when he announced his decision to send tens of thousands of additional troops to Iraq."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/07/AR2007070701274.html

Meanwhile:
"Six years after the Bush administration declared war on al-Qaeda, the terrorist network is gaining strength and has established a safe haven in remote tribal areas of western Pakistan for training and planning attacks"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071102443_pf.html

Realism said...

So, what we have here is the Bush administration moving the goalposts to claim some illusory "success" in Iraq, while the reality of the situation is that the threat of terrorism has gotten much worse due to the ineptitude of the Commander in Chief, the decreased influence of our nation due to that ineptitude and the draining of our military, economic, and diplomatic assets stemming from this "Heart of Darkness"-esque misadventure.