Looks like Obama is just another "say anything it takes to get elected" liberal...
On Thursday's The O'Reilly Factor, FNC analyst Karl Rove quoted an AP story by Christopher Wills from September 18, 2004, which had reported not only that Barack Obama had previously been open to a U.S. troop increase in Iraq when he was running for Senate, but had warned against a premature troop withdrawal as a "slap in the face to the troops fighting there" which could make Iraq "an extraordinary hotbed of terrorist activity." (Transcripts follow)
After devoting his "Talking Points Memo" to debunking Obama's recent claim that "there was no such thing as Al-Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq," Bill O'Reilly started his interview with Rove by asking why it is "bad strategy for Obama to go out and say that the Bush administration fouled it all up and we need to get out."
Rove began: "To answer that question, I might read the words of a United States Senator," referring to Obama, before quoting from Wills's article, titled "Obama Willing to Support More Troops in Iraq."
Below is the portion of the article quoted by Rove as originally written by Wills:
America cannot afford to withdraw immediately, said Obama, an early opponent of invading Iraq. That would create more chaos in Iraq and make it "an extraordinary hotbed of terrorist activity," he said at a meeting of the Illinois News Broadcasters Association. It would also damage America's international prestige and amount to "a slap in the face" to the troops fighting there, he said.
Wills also reported that Obama, at the time, was open to a temporary increase in the number of troops in Iraq:
Democratic Senate candidate Barack Obama said Saturday he would be willing to send more soldiers to Iraq if it is part of a strategy that the president and military leaders believe will stabilize the country and eventually allow America to withdraw.
"If that strategy made sense and would lead ultimately to the pullout of U.S. troops but in the short term required additional troop strength to protect those who are already on the ground, then that's something I would support," he said.
Rove later questioned Obama's logic in a way the mainstream media have so far failed to do, in response to Obama's assertion that "there was no such thing as Al-Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq." After pointing out that Obama admitted that Al-Qaeda is already in Iraq and that it would be bad if Al-Qaeda gained control, Rove continued:
He has this internal conflict of, saying, okay, I admit they're there, it would be bad if they got control, bad enough that I'd send American troops back, but I want to withdraw them in the meantime. Now, isn't it easier and better to beat them while we're there without allowing them to get control of the country?
Below is a complete transcript of Wills's AP article from September 18, 2004, titled "Obama Willing to Support More Troops in Iraq," followed by the relevant portion of the segment with Rove from the Thursday February 28 The O'Reilly Factor:
From the September 18, 2004 AP:
Democratic Senate candidate Barack Obama said Saturday he would be willing to send more soldiers to Iraq if it is part of a strategy that the president and military leaders believe will stabilize the country and eventually allow America to withdraw.
"If that strategy made sense and would lead ultimately to the pullout of U.S. troops but in the short term required additional troop strength to protect those who are already on the ground, then that's something I would support," he said.
America cannot afford to withdraw immediately, said Obama, an early opponent of invading Iraq.
That would create more chaos in Iraq and make it "an extraordinary hotbed of terrorist activity," he said at a meeting of the Illinois News Broadcasters Association. It would also damage America's international prestige and amount to "a slap in the face" to the troops fighting there, he said.
Sunday, March 02, 2008
FNC's Rove Highlights Obama's Flip-Flop on Iraq Troop Withdrawal
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well, big whoop! let's see, that was umm, what, 3 and a half years ago? it only took bush another 2 and a half years to make the big move. wow, pretty decisive that.
and mccain was against tax cuts before he was for them.
and mccain was against torture before he was ok with it.
and mccain was for habeas corpus before he was against it.
and mccain was for public campaign funding before he was against it.
and mccain was for "amnesty" before he was against it.
i got yer flip-flopper right here!
and o'reilly...
"After devoting his "Talking Points Memo" to debunking Obama's recent claim that "there was no such thing as Al-Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq," Bill O'Reilly..."
it is to laugh. o'reilly debunked nothing. his debunking was that zarqawi was in iraq pre-invasion. oh wow! and he was conspiring with saddam to perpetrate 911? and he was killing iraqis and setting off explosives killing iraqis and americans? ooops there were no americans there. i forgot.
you folks are really hopeless!
calm down...
There is no playing politics on this, Obama, like most libearls, does not understand how to deal with terrorism and terrorists.
He was FOR something, then it started working, NOW he's against it.
If that isn't stupid I don't know what is.
And if he did support it in the past, he can not say that he NEVER supported it.
And if we created terrorists in Iraq, then welfare created poor people...
Damn it, that is not a good example, cause all failed social liberal programs create more and more poor people.
"his debunking was that zarqawi was in iraq pre-invasion. oh wow!"
Which means AlQueda had a presence in Iraq pre-invasion. It's only stated as a fact to debunk the notion that AQ was not there before we were. What they were doing, training, chillin', killing Iraqis, is not the point. BTW, AQ didn't need to kill Iraqis back then. Sadam and his boys were doing that all by themselves.
Let me ask you again - Are we going to attack Pakistan because there are real Al Queda in Peshawar and Queta area.
Right or wrong, Obama has been pretty consistent like McCain when it comes to Iraq war. Yes, they are different views.
You quoting Bill O'Reilly and Carl Rove on FNC tops all of it... :-) WOW!
I constantly have facts to back that statement up, the fact you have to swear and can't show how the Dems would effectively win this war on terror proves my point.
They said the surge was a bad idea, it has worked so far.
Everytime someone dies they want to pull out, you cant have that kind of emotionalism running a war.
South Korea, Syria, Turkey and Iran are much less aggressive because we showed some balls in the middle east for once, unlike the 8 years of Bill, which gave terrorist the courage to carry out 9-11.
ma, one terrorist does not a "presence" make. otherwise, we should have invaded germany.
"which gave terrorist the courage to carry out 9-11"
huh? by what logic? who gave the terrorists the courage to bomb the world trade center in 1993?
19 saudis were somehow emboldened to attack because somebody didn't have balls?
"19 saudis were somehow emboldened to attack because somebody didn't have balls?"
Exactly. After the debacle depicted in the movie, "Blackhawk Down", bin Laden "realized" we were "paper tigers" and stepped up his efforts to attack us. Our resolve as a nation was questionable as far as they were concerned and they felt any response would be short lived. Until Bush 43, they were pretty much right. Too large a segment of our population still wants to throw in the towel on fighting this evil every time another soldier dies. Obama's opinions on the war go further into stupidity.
anonymous terrorist supporter, because Clinton did nothing against attacks against Americans, that emboldened the terrorists to strike. You have to do more than call names to disprove that.
"because Clinton did nothing against attacks against Americans"
pcdummy, you're full of s**t. clinton captured, tried, and convicted the man responsible for the first bombing of the trade center. he also bombed iraq. his administration also did many other anti-terrorist activities besides invading another country and warned the bush administration that al qaeda would be the biggest danger they would have to face. bush of course ignored this warning.
why?
too bad the twoops are too busy throwing little puppies off cliffs
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23465732#23465732
Hahahaha...you said oreilly and rove in the same sentence. Sounds like an A list hate fest to me!
et all...You guys have no clue why they are attacking us or how we could get them to stop but kill them all. You guys are going to lose with logic and rhetoric like this...just a friendly warning.
other anonymous, don't you know that all the troops throw puppies off cliffs?
unfortunately the malkin-types on the internet are punishing the marine's family for his actions. that's pathetically wrong.
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