Wednesday, January 07, 2009

Deaths caused by hospital mistakes 'up 60 per cent in two years'

Read about a country with socialized medicine...
How bad will we let things get (read bad as liberal) before we see that all this stuff has been done, and has failed...

8 comments:

jhbowden said...

Hey Game, those accidental deaths are justified, because of compassion, the common good, and love of our fellow man!

As Obama says, we must no longer have a system were every man is on his own, where it is every man for himself. The days where people do the best possible job to obtain the greatest possible reward must end forever! Conservatism is discredited!

The Game said...

very nice...good to see you

Anonymous said...

how exactly do the proposals for universal healthcare in the us, currently being floated, resemble the uk "national health" scheme??

Realism said...

Gee, and I wonder what has changed in the last few years in the national health service of the UK?

What's that, you say? Tony Blair has made a push towards privatization? He made moves to strengthen Margaret Thatcher's "internal market" which was introduced to increase market participation in the health care system?

Anyway, people die in American hospitals due to mistakes at much higher rates than in the UK.

your propaganda no workie, sorry.

The Game said...

ummm...provide some facts for that...
Then try and show that the wait time for major surgery is lower in Canada than in the US...I wrote papers on that in grad school

Realism said...

3645 deaths in one year with a UK population of 60,943,912 equals 1 per 16,720

83,000 deaths in one year with a US population of 303,824,640 equals 1 per 3660

And focusing on the ONE metric that the US ranks well does not help your argument.

What about the fact that the US ranks so poorly for every metric EXCEPT wait time for major surgery, or the fact that more major surgeries are needed here because there is less access to preventive care?

How about all of the people who are financially ruined by medical expenses?

How about all of the people who suffer from easily maintainable conditions like asthma, hypertension, diabetes and high cholesterol.

How about the added expense that we all pay when the uninsured have to wait until their illnesses become acute and then seek care at emergency rooms, the most expensive and least effective form of treatment?

The Game said...

You have a point in preventative med.
I am a proponent of that 100 percent...you would spend one dollar on that and save twelve...
are you happy...intellectual honesty once again from the game...

Anonymous said...

slightly off-topic, but, we have a horrible staph infection problem in our hospitals, some of which are world-renowned

i believe it is because nurses launder their scrubs at home now, rather than at the sanitary hospital laundry, and changing when starting and ending shifts would help

also, even in the cleanest hospitals, i'm seeing standards of cleanliness decline, disturbing