Right from the Right: Obama wins the felon vote

Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Obama wins the felon vote

20 comments:

Aaron said...: Where's McGee?; January 13, 2009 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Sitting in a federal pen? Same place where Scooter Libby should be.; January 13, 2009 1:17 PM
Anonymous said...: "Sitting in a federal pen? Same place where Scooter Libby should be..."

hee hee hee, two points

i have absolutely no pity for the obamabots when they will inevitably whine about this montage, few of us will forget the long summer, hearing them belittle the "low information voter", the "bitter", the ones who "cling to God, guns, and religion..."

they revealed their own little elitist pretensions and racist tendencies, let 'em learn how to take it, as well as they can dish it out; January 13, 2009 6:28 PM
Ron said...: I bet nobody that voted for McCain ever got arrested! And I bet they weren't black either!; January 13, 2009 7:37 PM
Anonymous said...: ron, i think the point might be, that mccain voters, clinton supporters, hell, even mckinney supporters, don't tend to be the type to be caught up in deification of their preferred candidate

i don't recall these crowds of vendors, or televised commercials for ceremonial plates, etc., for any of them, do you?

and, i cannot recall seeing ANY black person wearing a tshirt featuring ANY white politician, unless, of course, they were paid employees or volunteers of the campaign!

the "we be thuggin'" aspect is only one part of the phenomenon, the unabashed (and unwarranted) pride in african-american's near-manic pride in the election of a pez dispenser of color to office is far more noteworthy, because it shatters a lot of myths frequently cited as evidence of how far "the nation" has come

"we", meaning non-blacks, HAVE indeed come far, "racism" of whites against blacks is virtually non-existent, whereas blacks continually place race as their key factor in who they pick to venerate, as well as who they pick to continuously victimize; January 13, 2009 9:38 PM
Scorpion said...: As I have said before at this RIGHT ON site..the biggest racists I have met and had to deal with in my forty plus years in the Milwaukee school system are not white...no imagination in that.....; January 14, 2009 8:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Are these photos of Game's GED graduating class of 2007?; January 14, 2009 12:21 PM
The Game said...: lol...there wouldn't be that many; January 14, 2009 12:34 PM
The Game said...: and if there were scores of people being arrested in McCain or Palin shirts it would be on the nightly news; January 14, 2009 12:35 PM
blamin said...: Realism,

You’ve a real problem man. I’m not just talking pure partisan problem, but blinders on the sunglasses problem.

Are you one of those that actually believe any criticism of the black community equates racism?; January 14, 2009 11:59 PM
Anonymous said...: it's a successful strategy, no?

they know that all they have to do is scream "racism!", and all debate and questioning stops

and it works! special interest groups come to learn, there are great riches, and privilege, and respect for the sins allegedly visited upon them in the past, to be had, by employing this simple tactic

it's called "gettin' paid", and they do it, because it works; January 15, 2009 2:27 AM
Realism said...: I believe that attributing a negative attribute to an entire race of people is racist.

The black community has a lot of problems.

So does the white community.

for each group, some of the problems are caused by their own actions, some of the problems are caused by society.; January 15, 2009 7:26 AM
blamin said...: You are absolutely correct Realism.

But, then again, some groups don’t have a huge portion of the media (and miss-named bloggers) making excuses for them either.

But hey, it’s not just the races that tend to get lumped together; it’s political persuasions, regions of the country, etc., etc.

Not that one excuses the other, but I don’t recall you having a problem when you or yours are the ones doing the “lumping”.

As far as your suggestion that “society” may be a problem with blacks – to a large (large, not total) extent it’s a self-made problem.; January 15, 2009 8:15 AM
Realism said...: But, then again, some groups don’t have a huge portion of the media (and miss-named bloggers) making excuses for them either. Understanding WHY something is is not the same as making excuses for it.

But hey, it’s not just the races that tend to get lumped together; it’s political persuasions, regions of the country, etc., etc.

As far as "lumping together" political persuasions (as well as religions and other ideologies), that has more validity than lumping together races. People choose (for the most part) their political affiliations. Therefore, if you have an accurate understanding of that ideology, it is perfectly reasonable to make assumptions and generalizations that, although they may not be 100% accurate, will have a pretty strong basis in reality.

but I don’t recall you having a problem when you or yours are the ones doing the “lumping”. My ideology is centered around "un-lumping", that is, recognizing the innate value of the different "lumps" and forming all of the individual "lumps" into one big "lump". That is something that I hear conservatives (especially Jason) constantly criticizing.

As far as your suggestion that “society” may be a problem with blacks – to a large (large, not total) extent it’s a self-made problem. To take that view is to argue that your environment has no role in shaping who you are. For example, if you take two WWII servicemen who are similar in all respects except that one is white, one black, you can see this principle illustrated pretty well. The white vet, upon returning home had the opportunity to obtain a college education and a very affordable mortgage. From this, he was able to earn a comfortable living realize the statistical probability that college educated parents are more likely to have wealthier, more educated children. Their grandchildren are able to ride that statistical "wave" to a life of relative affluence and ease.

The black vet, however, is far less likely to gain admittance to college due to racism in admissions. He is less likely to be able to purchase a home because of racism and redlining. So, he is much more likely to have to take a low paying job (or two) to support his family. His wife may have to work as well. His children will not have the educational foundation to succeed academically. They will have less supervision (because of the number of hours that the parents will have to work)so they will be more likely to get into trouble. Statistically, his grandchildren will be even worse off, and we can see the results of this today.

Obviously, with hard work, any obstacle can be overcome, but to just make excuses for society (and that's exactly what you're doing) by saying "It's their own fault" shows an ignorance of history.; January 15, 2009 9:43 AM
Ron said...: No the people on the right wear white hood if they are racist and take them off. They join groups and go to the forest to play commando. Just because they don't wear an identifying mark to their mug shot means nothing. You guys think very narrowly in my mind.

Yes there are big time black racists. White ones just as big. The problem is we keep dividing ourselves which is what the puppetmasters want. They divert your attention and make lots o money that way...thanks for helping them.; January 15, 2009 2:06 PM
Anonymous said...: ron, you are absolutely correct, in that we are controlled and pushed into aggressive postures against one another, by forces that, I believe, we haven't even begun to comprehend the magnitude of, that i choose to identify as evil, not just greedy or deranged with power

the problem is, what is it you expect from us "puppets", who, indeed, work on the front lines of this internal divide, on a day-to-day basis?

there are increasing threats to personal security and safety, a longtime and continuing threat to property and basic human respect for ALL parties, not just one side, and a depressing cloud of hopelessness and despondency, as the years roll on, and conditions continue to deterioriate

so, it is not so easy to judge, for how sorry do you expect the rats in the burning house, to feel for the rats, in the burning house's basement? there IS no unity, virtually all sense of shared cooperation for common goals are long gone, so, in the absence of these....?

i understand your condemnation, though i do not share it or condone it, but my hope would be that, at some point, you'd open your heart to the conviction that we, too, are subject to the same "underlying causes" and "trigger mechanisms" of those we supposedly oppress, in the course of our day-to-day work, because, it is what is

thank you all, for your thought-provoking comments and responses; January 15, 2009 5:04 PM
blamin said...: Realism,

I find it very interesting that you use a 60 year old example to make your point (WWII vets). Any honest person would admit that, in America today, two persons, one black, one white, who had equal abilities in every way, the black person would have greater/more opportunities.

Due to constraints on time and space, I made the comment that many blacks are in a self-made position. Let me ‘splain for ya.

I lived in a hosing project for several years, aged 16 to 18. While it was a project in the ‘burbs, and can’t compare to the inner cities, I came damn close to becoming another “number in the system”.

Any informed person realizes that a black child (or any poor child), growing up in the projects with a single mother has the deck stacked against him/her. The chance that a child in this position will grow up to repeat the problems is great. Here’s the problem. At some point in your life you have to take responsibility. Now some will say, accurately, that these children were never taught responsibility, therefore they can’t be expected to live responsibly.

This is a big problem, a problem that many have wrestled with for decades. Some advocate “understanding”, but all the understanding in the world doesn’t change reality. Many different things have been tried, by many different self-appointed progressives, the problem remains.

I have a few suggestions for remedying this terrible problem. It’s obvious at this point, that “progressives” don’t have the answer. My suggestions will hurt in the short term, but will help generations in the long-run, actual solutions to this decades old problem. But I fear that some won’t have the stomach for doing the necessary (this is where strong leadership comes in). Hell, some don’t even want the problem solved, because without victims, they have no power. Some are simply used by those who don’t want the problem solved, and blindly attempt to “understand’ while trying new and improved variations on the failed policies of the past.

If you can think out-of-the box, and really care about the future of black Americans, and this country, I’d be glad to share them with you.; January 15, 2009 11:36 PM
Realism said...: My example was intended to show that while it's true that racism against black people isn't nearly as bad as it used to be, the effects of racism are perpetuated through generations. Meaning that the grandson of the black WWII vet still suffers from the racism that was directed at his grandfather, even if the racism directed at him is minimal.

The white middle class today enjoys the benefits of preferential treatment that their parents, grandparents, etc received. That preferential treatment allowed them to pass down financial wealth, education, and social status that helped their children get a leg up in society.; January 16, 2009 8:30 AM
Ron said...: hash, thanks for understanding what I am saying. I also understand your point but we can either keep dividing or strive with all our might to go the other way. I am in the latter camp whenever possible.; January 16, 2009 1:23 PM
Ron said...: "Hell, some don’t even want the problem solved, because without victims, they have no power. "

You are spot on on this blamin although we may disagree on who they are.
Yes, many of the black people do not make as big an effort, they have more split familys with no responsibility. Lots of stuff. However it might be time to listen to them and what THEIR solutions to THEIR problems are. THEY in the long run will have to solve their own problems and on that I bet we can agree.; January 16, 2009 1:28 PM

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