Thursday, February 26, 2009

Revisited: Campaign promises

Let's see the liberals explain this one:
I correctly predicted that liberals were flat out lying during the election when they said they were open to more drilling.
We all know they say whatever it takes to get elected, and we have enough stupid people in this country that continue to believe them.

So what happened liberals?

The new refinery that was going to be built has been blocked and the lift on off shore drilling as expired.

Explain how this is nothing but a flat out lie. Man, when all this spending crushes us and gas prices start going back up, there might not be a liberal left in congress. I'd say I hope so, but unlike liberals who spent 8 years trashing our country and hoping things went bad in the economy and Iraq, I do not wish harm on our country for political gain.

19 comments:

Realism said...

"I'd say I hope so, but unlike liberals who spent 8 years trashing our country and hoping things went bad in the economy and Iraq, I do not wish harm on our country for political gain."

Here, lemme fix that for you:

"I'd say I hope so, but unlike Rush Limbaugh and Congressional Republicans, I do not wish harm on our country for political gain."

There, much better

HumbleHumanity said...

Please provide a link to Limbaugh saying that. I knew he was too good to be true.




Just put the link here.



You know, so you can prove that he actually said it and you didn't just claim that he said it.


Because that would be like lying.




And you would never do that.

Anonymous said...

humble?

funnily enough, i happened to catch the first part of his show today...

he made it a POINT to exclaim that he strongly wanted barky's agenda to go down in flames, he denounced any "conservatives" that had spouted the "but I WANT him to succeed" mantra, and strongly urged said "conservatives" to join him in condemning barky's every last move to the bitter ends of the earth

now, ironically enough, i happen to agree with him...

but, IMHO, what rush said DOES happen to qualify as what realism points to, as "wishing harm on our contry, for political gain"...

in short, humble, you can't have it both ways...

as for game's daily rant as to how he hates all liberals and why, that i can't account for, other than the fact that so-called "conservatives" really only listen to their talk-show hosts, and never the news ("why bother?", LOL)

months ago, barky's "office of the manipulator-elect" clearly announced their intention not to renew the offshore drilling "lift", as whatever Godforsaken news source game uses these days, refers to it

i heartily support offshore drilling, but barky does not

perhaps so-called "conservatives" should have voted for mccain in larger numbers, and exhorted their comrades to do the same, rather than out-"conservative" each other, when anyone with half a brain could see the failed neocon policies and agenda were history

don't worry, bobby jindal and michael steele will save us all, LOL!

Realism said...

Yeah, I'll get on that just as soon as Game posts some quotes from democrats that say the same thing. The point is, Game, like the good little authoritarian sub that he is, has conflated the opposition to Bush policies during his (mis)Administration as "harming the country for political gain". So, by that same standard, Rush Limbaugh saying "I don't believe in that. I know that's not how this country is going to be great in the future, it's not what made this country great. So I shamelessly say, no, I want him to fail".

So, if liberals opposing Bush policies of initiating wars of aggression, warrantless wiretapping, indefinite detention and suspension of habeas corpus equates to "wanting America to fail", then so would the opposition of the congressional republicans and Rush.

But coherence and ideological consistency hasn't really been a strong suit of Republicans, at least during my lifetime. It's all "It's OK if You're A Republican".

But if links are what you want, then I shall provide them:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481484,00.html

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=7&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.michnews.com%2FJ_Grant_Swank_Jr%2FAGREE_WITH_LIMBAUGH_OBAMA_MUST_FAIL.shtml&ei=W_CmSdP5FYyPngf7pKTaDw&usg=AFQjCNFXmd_Q45Y8JnUTMwqRs_txMoY6ig&sig2=MgRtlB7IsLZFC504DZGoRQ

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/26/rush-sanford-idiot/

The Game said...

Just on the military...not to mention Chucks comments about the economy

REP. JOHN MURTHA: … on November 19th, we had an incident in Haditha in Anbar province, where a Marine was killed with an IED. Time magazine reported it, and it's kind of a puzzling report, because they're investigating it right now. Let me tell you what the consequences of this have been.
It's much worse than reported in Time magazine. There was no fire fight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood. And that's what the report is going to tell…

Pelosi: "Whatever the military success and progress that may have been made, the surge didn't accomplish its goal. And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians -- they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities -- the Iranians."

Here is one how most dems are wrong about how to run a war:
Senator Barack Obama called it “wrong-headed” and countered with a proposal to pull nearly all U.S. troops out of Iraq by March 2008. Senator Hillary Clinton came back from a quick trip to Iraq to declare: “I am opposed to this escalation,” while another Democratic candidate, Senator Joe Biden, blasted the troop surge as “a tragic mistake.”

Some more joy and hope for troop and military failure:
"I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week," Reid told journalists.

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. Democratic Senator Dick Durbin

Rep. John Murtha (D-PA): "It's not going to get better. They've been overly optimistic. This is a civil war where two participants are fighting with each other trying to win supremacy, and our troops are caught in between."

MURTHA: Well I'll tell you exactly what happened. One Marine was killed and the Marines just said we're gonna take care...we don't know who the enemy is, the pressure was too much on them, so they went into houses and actually killed civilians and...I...

Anonymous said...

"Just on the military...not to mention Chucks comments about the economy..."

huh? i KNOW they speak proper english in milwaukee...

what about the military?

and who the hell is chuck?

firstly, as far as i know, murtha has not retracted any of his statements regarding the haditha massacre

pelosi is a dope in general, but she also happens to be repeating what any informed person knows, which is iran is no threat to anyone, much less us

in fact, they have nothing but compelling reasons to work to pacify the conflicts in the region, despite the neocons' best effort to portray them as an enemy

"Senator Barack Obama called it “wrong-headed” and countered with a proposal to pull nearly all U.S. troops out of Iraq by March 2008..."

proving once again, the adage that even a broken clock is correct, twice a day...

"Senator Hillary Clinton came back from a quick trip to Iraq to declare: “I am opposed to this escalation,” while another Democratic candidate, Senator Joe Biden, blasted the troop surge as “a tragic mistake....”

both 100% correct, which you'd recognize, if you didn't rely on agents of foreign powers, paid liars like yon, roggio, and ardolino, for essential information on a failed military operation, where no journalists are permitted to cover

"Some more joy and hope for troop and military failure:
"I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week," Reid told journalists..."

well, duh?

thanks, captain obvious

and america's most expensive "adventure" (read: DEFEAT) is largely responsible for the problems we have at home, now

thanks, neocon filth, for saddling us with a debt my grandchildren will not see paid off...

the dead soldiers and innocent iraqis who died for your lie thank you, as well

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. Democratic Senator Dick Durbin..."

well, i believe that, to what extent, i am not sure

i also believe, we shall soon see incontrovertible proof of atrocities in the region, which of course, followers like you will continue to deny, regardless

"Rep. John Murtha (D-PA): "It's not going to get better. They've been overly optimistic. This is a civil war where two participants are fighting with each other trying to win supremacy, and our troops are caught in between..."

uh, what part of this has been credibly debunked? again, the news has been cancelled, and there has never been any reliable reporting in the region, to corroborate otherwise

"MURTHA: Well I'll tell you exactly what happened. One Marine was killed and the Marines just said we're gonna take care...we don't know who the enemy is, the pressure was too much on them, so they went into houses and actually killed civilians and...I..."

i have no reason to believe this was not, in fact, true

more importantly, game, i have no proof either way, and NEITHER DO YOU...

The Game said...

you can't debate with someone who can't even admit we are doing a great job in Iraq. I have more than one friend that was there, so even though you have some crazy theories on how the media is hidding the failure, I have first hand knowledge that it is a success.

Anonymous said...

"...you can't debate with someone who can't even admit we are doing a great job in Iraq..."

WE INVADED THE WRONG COUNTRY, GAME!!

"I have more than one friend that was there, so even though you have some crazy theories on how the media is hidding the failure, I have first hand knowledge that it is a success..."

OMG...game, unless you were there yourself, you can't call it "first-hand information"...

secondly, because you weren't there, YOU can't know what your buddies were privy to, or even if they were directly involved in operations that really mattered, from a strictly tactical standpoint...

thirdly, why would i believe THEIR version of events, when you are friends, are presumably like-minded, and you claim to believe the things you claim to believer, here??

oh, why do i bother...

you know nothing, except what talk show hosts tell you

HumbleHumanity said...

Rooting for the presidents policy to fail is not rooting for the country to fail. Revisiting the great depression, made greater by government spending, is not good for the country. We already have to endure 4 years of Obama and his far left ideology, what happened to the centrist, his failure can prevent it from being 8 years.

That is not having it both ways.

Anonymous said...

"Rooting for the presidents policy to fail is not rooting for the country to fail..."

i actually agree 100%, it is not loyalty to country, to sweep a politician's failures under the rug

however, so-called "conservatives" certainly did not apply the same standard to americans who spoke out against bush, for years

they hurled slurs like "terrorist" and "surrender monkey", and sometimes worse, at the drop of a hat, which makes them hypocritical and fraudulent now, not to mention batshit insane

"what happened to the centrist, his failure can prevent it from being 8 years..."

with pathetic potential candidates like jindal and steele being seriously floated around, and the conservative movement not being purged of the neocons who destroyed it

barky could screw up every day for the next few years (and i fully expect this), and STILL be able to mop of the floor with the right...

our one-party control grid that masquerades as a two-party system thus requires voters to choose the lesser of two evils

with a lack of a solid, coherent, effective policy message from either side, there's no reason to believe 2012 will be any different

jhbowden said...

there might not be a liberal left in congress.

Won't happen; you're misunderstanding the psychology. As Eric Hoffer put it,

"A mass movement attracts and holds a following not because it can satisfy the desire for self-advancement, but because it can satisfy the passion for self-renunciation."

Realism said...

"Revisiting the great depression, made greater by government spending"

That is another lie. The great depression was made worse because FDR listened to the Boheners, Jindals, and McCains of his time that insisted on cutting spending before private enterprise was ready to pick up the slack.

Anything else is revisionist propaganda, the only thing in which Republicans excel.

Realism said...

"Rooting for the presidents policy to fail is not rooting for the country to fail."

Good, so you agree with me that the last sentence of Game's post is meaningless propaganda, then.

The Game said...

do you see how what Realism says is fact and can not be debated, and anything we say is propaganda or talking points or whatever rush says.
Sign of a lazy or weak mind

Anonymous said...

Rush Limbo made more sense when he was high on oxy contins. Now he just sounds like a schoolyard punk who's gotten a Melvin from the new kid.

Realism said...

I would love it if you would debate what I say. I have many comments on your blog that are backed up with facts that counter your ideology. Your side tends to just say that anything you disagree with is "socialism" and leave it at that.

Anonymous said...

"Good, so you agree with me that the last sentence of Game's post is meaningless propaganda, then..."

yes, realism, i do

or, at the very least, a shortcut that doesn't really lead anywhere, or have much effort put into it

Ron said...

Game, for you to call anybody intellectually lazy is pot kettle.

You can't see how the opposition to bush and his policies was not wanting America to fail or hating the troops or treasonous or any other horrendous things you guys spewed and ran down your chin. You are blind to how outrage at what he was doing to the country was NOT BDS...but you see this crystal clear when the tables are turned. That is as intellectually lazy as I can possibly imagine.

You have become a joke with no core values. You argue for arguments sake ...or else you parrot rush and sean who argue for arguments sake or cognitive dissonance has completely consumed your brain.

By the way quit criticizing our president in a time of war you America hater.

Kids these days, I swear!

Ron said...

By the way. Oil is an OLD,OLD technology and I NEVER supported more drilling. Time to get into the 21st century kids. Unfortunately we well be held back for as long as it takes for maximum profits to be made. The hell with what is good for the country or people. They will convince enough dimwits that we must have oil to make it continue to happen. This is not about left right, none of this is. It's about maximum profits and control of resources by a few. left right is just a game they want us to occupy ourselves with so they can gain control right under your nose.