I was watching O'Reilly today and he had some stats up from a new poll.
66% of Americans either want more restrictions on abortion or have it illegal all together.
Why does the Democratic Party fight ANY restrictions. The answer is that they see it as a slippery slope. If liberals lose an inch on abortion, they believe it will be illegal totally.
Here they come out saying Democrats do support restrictions, yet every time there is a bill to make it harder to get an abortion, the Democrats are nowhere to be found. Silence is not support.
So, why are liberals not up in arms about partial birth abortion?
That is flat out murder.
Tuesday, August 15, 2006
The abortion issue
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I think, personally, and I mean this, the anti-choice crowd is scared to death of the MAP (Plan B - Morning After Pill) because if this medication becomes mainstream and easily available, abortion, as an issue, will cease to exist.
1: The numbers of these “abortions” will become impossible to track (which, ironically, always worked in the anti-choice arguments, as there was no way to show what the numbers were prior to RvW because people kept quiet).
2: The alleged detrimental psychological effects will be negated (women won’t ever know if they were even ever pregnant or not).
3: The stigmatizing of abortion providers, pro-choice politicians, and patients will be gone (no target enemy/victim to unite the anti-choice constituency).
4: It's no more "abortion" than taking the Pill regularly. So, to argue that Plan B should not be available is exactly to argue that the Pill should not be available. I wonder how many women (and men) would be okay with that?
I’m tellin’ ya’ - this will be the end of the issue of abortion.
Good riddance.
JMJ
Jersey---
The right to an abortion is not guaranteed in the Constitution. Roe v Wade ought to be repealed so each State can rule on the issue as each sees fit.
Y'know, that actually makes sense, Jason. Give the power back to the states that they should have.
and make it legal to cross a state border to get one...one of the reasons Roe v Wade came out.
Yeah, but the states need to have some rights given back to them, considering the current political/economic climate -- if they don't get it now, they never will.
Yeah, but the states need to have some rights given back to them, considering the current political/economic climate -- if they don't get it now, they never will.
You are wrong, Game. Dilation and extraction is legal. Therefore it is not murder.
You are correct, Game. It is the slippery slope that keeps Democrats from supporting any restrictions. Why? Because they know that there is no real compromise with the anti-woman side. Pass one compromise and then they move on to the next.
And if anyone doubts that, simply read the last sentence of Game's post.
My own personal view is partly (and only partly) for that reason, I'm against abortion. I just see the reality that it is legal, and is more than likely here to stay, so deal with that.
Partial-birth abortions are out-and-out murder, and I think that mothers and fathers both of a partial-birth abortion belong in the pen, to stay.
There is an old that those who are against abortion have used time & time again, and I still find it true to this day: there are too many alternatives to abortion. Look at all the parents out there trying to adopt.
Those pro-choice or pro-abortion (imho that's what pro-choice is, is pro-abortion) say that it's the woman's body to do as she wants with.
NO IT'S NOT. If it grows, if it lives, if it requires the same things that a human being does to continue to grow and manifest itself, if it is something there that normally wouldn't be that transforms into any facsimile of a life, it's a life. Period.
So, the feminists (and I'm one, in many ways) who use the argument that it's not a life are full of shit. Period. It's an excuse, and a totally invalid one to use abortion as a method of birth control.
I think in abortion's place there should be a new program -- that teaching people responsibility, and accountability for getting pregnant in the first place, rather than preventing it until they can handle it.
With that, sigh... I wish it could become illegal again, but it won't, so wishful thinking I guess.
At the same time, there are days when I look around at all these people getting pregnant, propagating 4 & 5 & 6 kids just to rip off the system, and I wish they could be forced to have abortions cuz these parents are nothing but trash, and I think "man, those kids they're bringing into the world would be so much better off if they weren't brought into the world... have mercy."
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