Good for you!!!
Someone has to say these things to their faces:
Lynne Cheney: "Right, But what is CNN doing running terrorist tape of terrorist shooting Americans? I mean, I thought Duncan Hunter asked you a very good question and you didn't answer it. Do you want us to win?"
"Why," she wondered, "are you running terrorist propaganda?"
Video clip (1:16): Real (2.2 MB) or Windows Media (2.6 MB), plus MP3 audio (450 KB)
CNN decides it is news that an American soldier was killed...because that has never happened in battle before...they decide to show it because they so hate the war in Iraq they can't even think straight, or they don't want to...
This video was filmed at a terror recruiting tape...and CNN showed it...
No bias???? get a clue
Sunday, October 29, 2006
Lynne Cheney Blasts CNN: ‘Why Are You Running Terrorist Propaganda?’
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It's not bias. It's news and it's compelling.
Some people don't want to see war. It's horrible.
CNN runs video of Lynn Cheney's husband saying the the US doesn't torture. That's propaganda.
where are all the video's of US soldiers killing terrorists on CNN Jim?
That's not compelling cause it doesn't fit your or your liberal friend CNN's agenda
Jim--
The left in this country thinks talking about 911 is politicizing the topic, giving in to fear, using tragedy for political gain and so forth.
However, when it comes to a snuff video of our people getting killed, the liberals are all for it. This crap is designed to appeal to the emotions of people -- to get people to feel that we're wasting time in Iraq, that the mission is not well defined, that there is no hope there-- basically the Party Line.
I know liberals who refuse to see movies like United 93. There is a general evasiveness about the central issue of our times-- the global effort to restore the Caliphate establish sharia law everywhere -- India, Spain, Nigeria, Somalia, Algeria, Indonesia, Thailand, the Philippines, Israel, and as 911 shows, yes, the heart of heresy in the modern world, the United States.
We're not supposed to recognize this. Instead, we're supposed to believe that fighting evil makes it stronger, and if we would give Muslim fundamentalists respect, diplomacy, and negotiation, they will spare lives, whether it be the residents of Kashmir or animists in the Sudan.
Some people don't want to *think* about what is going on -- they prefer the sensations and sensationalism of the media to the clear thought about the world we live in reason can provide.
I'm sure CNN would show them if the military provided them. That would be very compelling. But where are the videos? The military has cameras.
I've never heard any liberal being "all for" these videos. Nor am I. I'm only giving my opinion on why they are shown.
I'm not hearing many so-called conservatives bragging about a "well-defined" mission. Seems like the only mission left is to try not to be embarassed.
Jason said:
"We're not supposed to recognize this. Instead, we're supposed to believe that fighting evil makes it stronger, and if we would give Muslim fundamentalists respect, diplomacy, and negotiation, they will spare lives, whether it be the residents of Kashmir or animists in the Sudan."
Nobody says this. It's another false premise.
Jason, you go on and on and on about the Caliphate and its dangers, but you provide no ideas about how to combat it besides "having stones", "being tough", "not negotiating".
These are not plans. These are not strategies. This is not "reason." These are words of bravado without substance.
Tell us how you will fight the Caliphate. What is your strategy?
And Time-CNN also publish things like this.
This is a letter from a Marine officer in Fallujah. The sentiments expressed are neither left nor right, but they ARE compelling. I urge you to read it. It's not very long.
yes, war sucks
As far as Lynn Cheney, I think Jack Cafferty says it all at about the :50 second mark of this video.
So Cafferty thinks little of Lynn Cheney's comments? Who the hell is HE? I watched the whole clip, one token email blasting the pinhead, and you think this guy has credibility? Well, perhaps it's the only conservative who watches his lame analysis. He's a smug, arrogant and sorry piece of work. You can do better.
"I'm not hearing many so-called conservatives bragging about a "well-defined" mission."
You're not serious. How many have to state yet again that the mission is to provide support until such time that the Iraqi people can handle things themselves. Your link to the letter shows that such things are happening, and it's only your perception of how quickly it should go that hacks you.
"Nobody says this. It's another false premise."
Oh really. So what exactly are you saying? That we SHOULD continue the fight? Or are you gonna say we need more troops to do it right? Wouldn't that mean more American deaths? Wouldn't that mean we're DEFINITELY occupiers? If our presence is attracting terrorists, wouldn't more troops mean more terroists? If we "redeploy", why wouldn't that be seen as a victory for and embolden the enemy? We have established relations with two new governments. Where are we going wrong with our diplomacy? If the European whiners won't engage the enemy on behalf of the innocent Iraqis and Afghans, why should we give a rat's ass what they think? What exactly is YOUR plan?
Marshall, we appear to be talking two different things here: the war in Iraq and the fight against the global Caliphate.
No body is saying that we shouldn't fight those who use terror to advance a global ideology opposed to ours. Nobody.
If we weren't saddled with the single biggest strategic blunder in US history, we could actually be spending our time, money, and resources fighting terrorists and protecting our country, ports, chemical plants from disaster. Maybe we would even have enough money to effectively control immigration.
It's simply crazy to expect the people who got us into this mess to get us out. It's time for a change.
Jim,
CNN is hopelessly biased. They DO NOT show anything from the American Military, nor do they report the good news from Iraq.
Your supposition is irrefutably contradicted by facts and CNN's own actions.
Speaking of "terrorists"...
One thing that struck me as odd in the days after 9/11 was Bush saying "We will not tolerate conspiracy theories [regarding 9/11]". Sure enough there have been some wacky conspiracy theories surrounding the events of that day. The most far-fetched and patently ridiculous one that I've ever heard goes like this: Nineteen hijackers who claimed to be devout Muslims but yet were so un-Muslim as to be getting drunk all the time, doing cocaine and frequenting strip clubs decided to hijack four airliners and fly them into buildings in the northeastern U.S., the area of the country that is the most thick with fighter bases. After leaving a Koran on a barstool at a strip bar after getting shitfaced drunk on the night before, then writing a suicide note/inspirational letter that sounded like it was written by someone with next to no knowledge of Islam, they went to bed and got up the next morning hung over and carried out their devious plan. Nevermind the fact that of the four "pilots" among them there was not a one that could handle a Cessna or a Piper Cub let alone fly a jumbo jet, and the one assigned the most difficult task of all, Hani Hanjour, was so laughably incompetent that he was the worst fake "pilot" of the bunch. Nevermind the fact that they received very rudimentary flight training at Pensacola Naval Air Station, making them more likely to have been C.I.A. assets than Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. So on to the airports. These "hijackers" somehow managed to board all four airliners with their tickets, yet not even ONE got his name on any of the flight manifests. So they hijack all four airliners and at this time passengers on United 93 start making a bunch of cell phone calls from 35,000 feet in the air to tell people what was going on. Nevermind the fact that cell phones wouldn't work very well above 4,000 feet, and wouldn't work at ALL above 8,000 feet. But the conspiracy theorists won't let that fact get in the way of a good fantasy. That is one of the little things you "aren't supposed to think about". Nevermind that one of the callers called his mom and said his first and last name, more like he was reading from a list than calling his own mom. Anyway, when these airliners each deviated from their flight plan and didn't respond to ground control, NORAD would any other time have followed standard operating procedure (and did NOT have to be told by F.A.A. that there were hijackings because they were watching the same events unfold on their own radar) which means fighter jets would be scrambled from the nearest base where they were available on standby within a few minutes, just like every other time when airliners stray off course. But of course on 9/11 this didn't happen, not even close. Somehow these "hijackers" must have used magical powers to cause NORAD to stand down, as ridiculous as this sounds because total inaction from the most high-tech and professional Air Force in the world would be necessary to carry out their tasks. So on the most important day in its history the Air Force was totally worthless. Then they had to make one of the airliners look like a smaller plane, because unknown to them the Naudet brothers had a videocamera to capture the only known footage of the North Tower crash, and this footage shows something that is not at all like a jumbo jet, but didn't have to bother with the South Tower jet disguising itself because that was the one we were "supposed to see". Anyway, as for the Pentagon they had to have Hani Hanjour fly his airliner like it was a fighter plane, making a high G-force corkscrew turn that no real airliner can do, in making its descent to strike the Pentagon. But these "hijackers" wanted to make sure Rumsfeld survived so they went out of their way to hit the farthest point in the building from where Rumsfeld and the top brass are located. And this worked out rather well for the military personnel in the Pentagon, since the side that was hit was the part that was under renovation at the time with few military personnel present compared to construction workers. Still more fortuitous for the Pentagon, the side that was hit had just before 9/11 been structurally reinforced to prevent a large fire there from spreading elsewhere in the building. Awful nice of them to pick that part to hit, huh? Then the airliner vaporized itself into nothing but tiny unidentifiable pieces no bigger than a fist, unlike the crash of a real airliner when you will be able to see at least some identifiable parts, like crumpled wings, broken tail section etc. Why, Hani Hanjour the terrible pilot flew that airliner so good that even though he hit the Pentagon on the ground floor the engines didn't even drag the ground!! Imagine that!! Though the airliner vaporized itself on impact it only made a tiny 16 foot hole in the building. Amazing. Meanwhile, though the planes hitting the Twin Towers caused fires small enough for the firefighters to be heard on their radios saying "We just need 2 hoses and we can knock this fire down" attesting to the small size of it, somehow they must have used magical powers from beyond the grave to make this morph into a raging inferno capable of making the steel on all forty-seven main support columns (not to mention the over 100 smaller support columns) soften and buckle, then all fail at once. Hmmm. Then still more magic was used to make the building totally defy physics as well as common sense in having the uppermost floors pass through the remainder of the building as quickly, meaning as effortlessly, as falling through air, a feat that without magic could only be done with explosives. Then exactly 30 minutes later the North Tower collapses in precisely the same freefall physics-defying manner. Incredible. Not to mention the fact that both collapsed at a uniform rate too, not slowing down, which also defies physics because as the uppermost floors crash into and through each successive floor beneath them they would shed more and more energy each time, thus slowing itself down. Common sense tells you this is not possible without either the hijackers' magical powers or explosives. To emphasize their telekinetic prowess, later in the day they made a third building, WTC # 7, collapse also at freefall rate though no plane or any major debris hit it. Amazing guys these magical hijackers. But we know it had to be "Muslim hijackers" the conspiracy theorist will tell you because (now don't laugh) one of their passports was "found" a couple days later near Ground Zero, miraculously "surviving" the fire that we were told incinerated planes, passengers and black boxes, and also "survived" the collapse of the building it was in. When common sense tells you if that were true then they should start making buildings and airliners out of heavy paper and plastic so as to be "indestructable" like that magic passport. The hijackers even used their magical powers to bring at least seven of their number back to life, to appear at american embassies outraged at being blamed for 9/11!! BBC reported on that and it is still online. Nevertheless, they also used magical powers to make the american government look like it was covering something up in the aftermath of this, what with the hasty removal of the steel debris and having it driven to ports in trucks with GPS locators on them, to be shipped overseas to China and India to be melted down. When common sense again tells you that this is paradoxical in that if the steel was so unimportant that they didn't bother saving some for analysis but so important as to require GPS locators on the trucks with one driver losing his job because he stopped to get lunch. Hmmmm. Yes, this whole story smacks of the utmost idiocy and fantastical far-fetched lying, but it is amazingly enough what some people believe. Even now, five years later, the provably false fairy tale of the "nineteen hijackers" is heard repeated again and again, and is accepted without question by so many Americans. Which is itself a testament to the innate psychological cowardice of the American sheeple, i mean people, and their abject willingness to believe something, ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous in order to avoid facing a scary uncomfortable truth. Time to wake up America.
jason said...
We're not supposed to recognize this. Instead, we're supposed to believe that fighting evil makes it stronger, and if we would give Muslim fundamentalists respect, diplomacy, and negotiation, they will spare lives, whether it be the residents of Kashmir or animists in the Sudan.
The thing that Jim's trying to tell you, Jason, is not that anyone wants to do any of what you said. What is in dispute is how the war on terror is fought, not that it has to be fought, and not that it has to be fought with harshness and vigilance.
That is, for those who believe that the terrorists are so freaking bad, and there are so many of them that those who really fight them can't get them.
Fear-mongers and dip-shits.
If we fight them right, there's nothing to be afraid of. Just do it.
If we don't, then we do. It's that simple.
That kind of simplicity towards the situation should open your eyes to what's right in the situation and what isn't, and what isn't is what we're doing now.
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