Friday, April 13, 2007

State Elections Board finds 82 possible vote fraud cases

IF they found 82 cases in an election that most people didn't vote in, how many in a Presidental election take place?
And this is only one type of voter fraud...
SHOW A VOTER ID...simple...and the liberals who insist old people and minorities are too stupid or irresponsible to get an ID need to stop playing that game

8 comments:

PCD said...

game,

The new Democrat scam is to take provisional votes at the precinct and mix them in with the valid votes.

On voting day registration will be a gold mine for the ballot box stuffers.

Of course Chicago will stick to the paper punch ballots. Their dead voters have not problems with hanging chads.

Jim said...

Game,

Do you ever read the articles you link to?

These 82 cases are all about ex-felons who MAY have voted when they weren't legally eligible. 82 out of 2.2 million votes cast. Do you supposed they all went to the polls thinking they would vote even though they knew it was illegal? Do you think someone on parole would purposely commit a crime and violate that parole just so they could vote in an election?

Oh, and if any of the 82 had been required to show a photo ID, do you suppose that would have made one iota of difference?

The Game said...

I read it and referenced it...can you defend your side who says old people and minorities can't get ID's?

Marshal Art said...

If precincts were given lists of felons in their areas, ID's could definitely help in keeping felons from voting. As the article suggests, they may simply not know they can't. I have no problem with them being thus mistaken, but to have no method for informing them at the ballot booth doesn't make sense, either.

As Jim's comments have implied, the biggest argument against IDs is that there hasn't been a case that IDs would have prevented. That may even be true, but it doesn't account for those who weren't caught. I think the ID's are a great idea just to eliminate the possibility of someone trying to vote under someone else's name. It is also a good idea just for the sake of taking voting seriously. Taking the trouble to get the ID insures that the voter really cares about participating in the process. It's a good thing.

PCD said...

Game,

How about Jim defending the registering of the dead, not purging voters from the rolls who have moved, but votes magically still appear from that voter?

Nah, Jim supports ballot box stuffing by Democrats only.

Jim said...

Game, I don't have to defend it. It's been done many times. Why is a picture ID any better than comparing signatures as they do in my state? What about absentee voters? Who's going to look at a photo ID for those votes?

Marshall, if anybody is required to identify themselves, that is give a name, when they vote, why is a photo ID needed to compare that name to a list of ineligible ex-felons?

You still have not presented a compelling argument for needing a photo ID.

PCD said...

Marshall,

Also, to add to your point, Jim doesn't think ensuring a legal vote is worth as much as being able to cash a check.

Jim, are you such a tool that you can't see that people already need a photo ID for things like cashing a check, sometimes even using a charge card, and authorities already demand such an ID when you deal with them. What the Hell are you thinking, if you are thinking and not parroting from Think Progress or the Democrat party?

Marshal Art said...

I don't believe this is an issue that requires a more compelling argument that what has been given. Not every issue is so earth shattering as to have such a requirement. Yet at the same time, there is a push to make voting easier, what with drive up voting, pre-voting, other mail-in possibilities, etc. Most are to accomodate the lazy in order to get votes that they wouldn't ordinarily get.

My point is that it shouldn't be made easier. Voting is a responsibility that should be taken very seriously as the outcome can affect generations in profound ways. Those that understand this have no problem making the effort to register, find their appropriate precinct voting location, get there despite the weather and TV lineup, stand in line and vote, and all this after paying attention to the issues and candidates. Having valid identification only makes sense, is another aid in keeping the process credible and, quite frankly, should not be a problem in any way for anyone who claims to be a responsible and involved participant in the democratic process.