Just notice you have to get good information about Iraq from a UK paper...the Anti-American liberal media will not tell you about this:
Fed up with being part of a group that cuts off a person’s face with piano wire to teach others a lesson, dozens of low-level members of al-Qaeda in Iraq are daring to become informants for the US military in a hostile Baghdad neighbourhood.
The ground-breaking move in Doura is part of a wider trend that has started in other al-Qaeda hotspots across the country and in which Sunni insurgent groups and tribal sheikhs have stood together with the coalition against the extremist movement.
So, things are working well with the increased troop levels in Iraq.
Now, what was it that the Dems wanted to do? Oh ya, run away and turn Iraq into a terror camp.
DO NOT LET THE DEMS LOSE THIS WAR
Monday, July 23, 2007
Al-Qaeda faces rebellion from the ranks
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Yes - things are working well in Iraq. I might take a little vacation there this winter!
Was that an attempt at liberal humor?
Its comments like this that show me why liberal talk radio is a failure.
You have no ability to argue the issue.
Every single report and news story outside the liberal media tells us the troop surge is working.
But you have to make a joke, because you have no rational thought on the matter.
I can understand your inability to see the reality (and humor)!! Tell me what's there to argue or even discuss? How many times we heard from people like you that things are going great in Iraq? Take a look at the number of deaths - Did you miss it? Come on - be real,man!
"Every single report and news story outside the liberal media tells us the troop surge is working" - WOW - what's your definition of liberal media? I guess it includes Senator Chuck Hagel and U.S.Ambassador Ryan Crocker??
If you look at the number of deaths under a historical perspective...you will see that the number of deaths is very, very low.
This from the July 21 Daily Herald, a newspaper for the Chicago suburbs:
From wire reports:
Baghdad---U.S. military commanders said Friday the troop buildup in Iraq must be maintained until at least next summer and they may need as long as two years to assure parts of the country are stable.
Three officers were cited in this article, all saying variations of the same thing: It won't happen overnight and leaving early is a bad idea. They were, Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, commander of the 3rd Infantry Division, Maj. Gen. W. E. Gaskin, U.S. commander in the Anar Province, and Gen. James Conway, commandant of the Marine Corps.
So no, a vacation trip to Iraq might be a bit premature, but progress is ongoing, yet still the surge has only just begun. All the while, we hear more and more reports like the one Game posted wherein Iraqis are being more supportive by informing and uniting with government forces. I'm sorry, as I'm sure the president is, that it can't be overnight, like american and others would prefer.
How long were we in Germany? Japan?
The modern liberal had not been created yet, so we stayed until the job was done...now we have to run away in fear.
America has no business occupying any other sovereign land when it cannot even get its own borders squared away and criminals are running our streets.
Nor had the neoconservative and the faulty idea of invading and occupying on the cheap, miscalculations that are responsible for the current state of affairs.
The article you provide shows no link between the surge and dissatisfaction with al Queda.
Hash, you are correct about the second part...
But it is always Democrats and liberal judges that block tough legislation or tough prison terms.
Unfortunately, it's ludicrous to turn around and explain to an American teenager, "Here, we'll clean up the streets and reform the legal system to secure your future, only to kill you by sending you to fight in another sovereign nation's civil war, for the benefit of the oil industry, Israel, and logistics."
Ultimately, there's no logic to it, and only underscores that our national priorities have been out of whack for an awfully long time.
We send people to other countries to fight so that these teenagers can go to the mall without the fear of being blown up...a lot more of them in one day than 6 years in Iraq
How long were we in Germany? Japan?
Still are, but how many American service people have been killed by roadside bombs in Germany and Japan since V-E Day and V-J Day
I am pretty sure more people died in WWII than in Iraq...by a few million...
And you can't compare the two by methods...there were no cowardly roadside bombs back then...
It's just a matter of time before we pull out of Iraq. It was wrong to go there in first place. Now, we are making it even worse by staying there and making our soldiers easy targets for those trainees in terrorist camps!
Why can't we learn from our mistakes?
Learn from our mistakes?
Are you talking about the liberal media and Democrats regarding Vietnam?
No, Sir - I am talking about 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' blunder and mismanagement of post-war Iraq!!
;-)
Also, death of more than 3500 American soldiers after the 'mission accomplished' event!
There was never a "mission accomplished" event. That was a mission accomplished sign for the soldiers that were done with their mission.
So was that statement ignorance or just another liberal lie that you pass off as fact.
Ok - that was the best excuse you could come up with? Didn't Rush or Sean teach you a better answer?
What about 'weapons of mass destruction'? What about the post-war mismanagement? What about increased violence by Taliban in Afghanistan? I guess, you have nothing to say, uh?
This is how you support our troops? By sending them to meat grinding machine? Very nice.
If it was just for the soldiers, why was the ship brought all the way, specially for the occasion, to be docked right off the California coast?
And if it was only for the soldiers, why did Bush wear a codpiece for the occasion?
Game, you are WAY OFF on Germany and Japan. First of all, you totally ignored the fact that since VE Day and VJ Day there has been little if any violence against Americans in Germany and Japan.
Also, do you think the the Germans and Japanese did not use booby traps to kill allied service men during the war?
Dont know your answers..the banner was for the troops, not Bush. Simple situation, simple answer...
Find me a quote in his speach where he says the war is over...
Or would you rather just keep making things up to defend your side...
"Major combat operations have ended"?
"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended"
"Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton said for the first time on Tuesday that they would support legislation to curtail major combat operations in Iraq by March 31, 2008, cutting off financing for all but a limited mission of American forces."
"In the Battle of Afghanistan, we destroyed the Taliban"
"Three years ago the Taliban operated in squad-sized units. Last year they operated in company-sized units (100 or more men). This year the Taliban are operating in battalion-sized units (400-plus men). So reported retired Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey, professor of international affairs at West Point, after his second trip to Afghanistan to assess the balance of forces"
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida, and cut off a source of terrorist funding"
"In one of the most troubling trends, U.S. officials said that Al Qaeda's command base in Pakistan is increasingly being funded by cash coming out of Iraq"
Okay realism...
So you are trying to show that our military is not doing the job. So, your and your parties solution is to run away...Will that make things better?
Oh, absolutely.
So you are trying to show that our military is not doing the job
No, I'm saying that the "job" as defined by Bush is not the "job" we should be doing.
You oppose welfare because you think that it drains the motivation of the person who is receiving it. They will not have the desire to take the steps to improve their own situation if the government is doing it for them.
IMO, that is exactly what is happening in Iraq. You have the government there dicking around instead of working hard to solve their own problems because they know that we are there to support their lazy asses. Same with the Iraqi military. Why should the Iraqis risk getting blown up fighting the insurgents when we are doing it for them.
You have to admit that a sizeable majority of the insurgency is not al Qaeda terrorists, but rather misguided people who doubt that our intentions are noble and see themselves as "freedom fighters". If we withdraw from Iraq, the insurgents with that motivation will have two choices: they can either lay down their arms or continue to fight. If they continue to fight, the rest of the Iraqis will quickly turn against them, just like when Zawahiri got his start as a terrorist fighting against Muslim regimes that he felt were too secular. In the beginning, there was widespread support for fundamentalist Islamist regimes. However, the muslim on muslim terror attacks in Algeria and in Egypt at Luxor made them pariahs.
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