So, Bush isn't on the list...
Drudge has it as a HUGE story on the top of his page.
Is it a big deal?
Bush is very influential when it comes to the war on terror...or at least he SHOULD be...
But what about other issues?
Who are the average person likely to listen to? Oprah or Bush?
Maybe he doesn't belong on the list
Thursday, May 03, 2007
Hillary, Obama, Rosie, Oprah on 'Most Influential' List
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It’s definitely a symptom of what ails our society if so many entertainers are truly considered some of the top people of influence. But, I guess you’d really have to get into the semantics of what Time considers “influence”.
Regardless, any reasonable person knows to take everything Time has to say with a grain of salt.
Time is correct. People like Leonardo DiCaprio, George Clooney, Rosie O'Donnell and so forth do have a lot of influence. It is not an accident that American society produces citizens like Jim, Ron, and Jay.
:)
okay, okay...back to the ropes, thats a warning for a low blow...
lol
The reason we have TIME putting out a list of the worlds 100 most influential Liberals is because they are arrogant and can't debate issues or admit thay've been wrong.
That brings me to Jay. Jay had this to say about me in the MPS thread: "And when are you going to ban pcd? Seriously, he's just toxic. And not in a good way. There are plenty of spirited debaters among your commenters, but this guy just oozes spite and poisons the healthy back-and-forth. "
Little class room Hitlers like Jay can only exist in environment were they are NEVER corrected or questioned. Classrooms are one place they exist because they have total authority. The Jays of the world crave total authority and that is why the revere Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, and Saddam to name a few.
People like Jay are not influential anywhere else outside of tightly controlled situations, and neither are most of the people on TIME's list. Ever go to a Hillary rally? You aren't allowed a telling question and follow up. You aren't even allowed to stay. Hillary's staff makes up a lie so that the Secret Service will not only escort you out but have you jailed, convicted, and persecuted as much as they can.
That is why Jay wants me banned from here. He's the Classromm bully who can't stand up to anyone.
pcd, make sure you stick to the topic...
You can bash Jim or Jay or Ron all you want in regards to what we are talking about...you can be correct in that way when you say they don't like it when they are challenged with facts...
but I would not like for this site to be like Ron's...okay
game,
I thought I was discussing the topic, the reasoning for such a biased listing, and the type of people who have to make up such a list to validate themselves and their philosophy.
I should say that Strobe Talbot, former Democrat Administration official, I think some representative to the UN or something and under Clinton I believe, was a big shot at TIME. He didn't believe in nation states and openly called for the demise of the US. He was what I classify as a classroom Hitler. He never could take a direct question and a tight follow up.
pcd: I will be happy to debate you on the issues if you can offer an opinion or set of facts to challenge me with. Calling me a "classroom Hitler" is not actually engaging me in conversation or debate.
In short, when you call me names or a liar, I won't respond. When you offer something constructive, then we can talk.
It would be nice to have people talking about the topics I bring up...right now we have a Ron web site...and that is not a good thing
Substance? Fine: pcd is wrong about Strobe Talbott, for example. Talbott was indeed Undersecretary of State for Clinton--but that means he hasn't worked at Time since 1992. How, fifteen years later, is that even remotely relevant to a poll the magazine released this week?
On top of which, pcd mirepresents Talbott's ideology. While Talbott does favor greater intergovernmental cooperation, he advocates nothing like "the demise of the US." He wrote, "The best mechanism for democracy, whether at the level of the multinational state or that of the planet as a whole, is not an all-powerful Leviathan or centralized superstate, but a federation, a union of separate states that allocate certain powers to a central government while retaining many others for themselves." He no more wants to dissolve the US than Thomas Jefferson did Virginia in 1787.
jay bullock
I'm shocked that you'd admit the truth about Talbott (and many others of the leftist persuasion). Is it fair to assume you're in agreement with Talbott?
So, Talbott is a modern day Thomas Jefferson when he advocates the USofA as one state in a vast world government, becasuse it's "The best mechanism for democracy". (snicker)
I can't help but wonder, if Jefferson had been able to forsee the steady erosion of state's rights, and the perversion of the constitution, would he have been such a proponent of the Union?
But you see, Talbott and his ilk are very aware of US history. They know full well what happened in the US would be repeated, worldwide - squared.
But, regardless of what the big-eyed pie-in-the-sky types who support the Talbott's of this world believe, in the end, what we'd be left with wouldn't look, sound, or feel much like a "democracy".
I love it when Lefties show his or her true colors, if only the main stream media would report such things on the headlines and lead stories. Then we'd never have to worry about SDC's (Subversives in Democrat Clothing) gaining power.
Is it fair to assume you're in agreement with Talbott?
No. Why would you do that?
pcd made a statement of factual eror. I corrected him. I said nothing about what I believe. I'd appreciate it if, in the future, you stop putting words in my mouth.
Why isn't George W. Bush on the list of influential people? To be influential, one has to be believable, right?
I rest my case.
jay, I put no words in your mouth, that's why I asked the question. I was just curious, what with your Jefforson/Talbott simile.
I'm glad to know you don't support subversives like Talbott and the Clintons.
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