Saturday, August 18, 2007

Savage Draws More Protests

I'm just going to post one line from this article...it is what happens anytime a liberal does not like what someone else is saying...they call it hate speech. Savage responds with this:

"To stop opinion by threatening legal action is akin to using the power of the State to control thought and speech.”

24 comments:

Jay Bullock said...

If you're going to pick an example of someone unfairly labeled as using hate speech, Michael Savage may well be the least-sympathetic one you could find.

I've heard and read his comments about immigrants, gays and lesbians, and liberals. He is far more hateful that pretty much any other nationally-syndicated radio host. He makes Hannity look like a paragon of politesse.

Marshall Art said...

I have a hard time being too sympathetic toward Savage, because I have a hard time with him period. Naturally as a conservative, there is much where we agree. But I don't much care for his overall tone and demeanor. As obviuos as it is that Ann Coulter can say a nasty thing and mean it for laughs, Savage says the same and simply means it. He's a hasty dude who's too freakin' angry to be a good thing for the cause. And that's what sucks the most about him because things he says, like the quote you posted, are absolutely true, but his hatefulness is a major turnoff. Thus, the truth of his statements are lost to the hateful manner in which he expresses himself. Plus, he's a cocky prick who thinks everyone is always thinking of him. It's like he actually IS what Limbaugh pretends to be as part of his schtick. We don't need it.

And Jay,

C'mon pal. All the others might hate statements, or policies, or stances, but they aren't hateful. I hear far more hateful condescenscion from a Rhandi Rhodes or Stewart Smalley than any of the conservative people I listen to. (I rarely listen to Savage. Usually only in hopes that there's a sub.)

Jim said...

I'm pretty much with you Jay and Marshall, except that Al Franken may be condescending at times, I've never, ever heard him be hateful. I'd be willing to read a quote that you might consider hateful from him.

Rhandi Rhodes, does get over the top, I agree.

crustyolbastard said...

Savage isnt saying anything anyway different than someone who grewup as he did in a working class neighborhood in the 50's. That is what makes him so appealing to his generation, and so abrasive to the thinner skinned sensitivity trained generations of later years.

If it sounds hateful, its for a good reason. In the case of his present antagonists, they are scum and proove it by their own heavy handed actions.

I hope he contines to defend himnself and not cave in the way Imus did.

The Game said...

I do find it refreshing that he says what he thinks and doesn't back down...another reason I like Coulter.
And his main message is language, borders and culture...and I am with him 100%.

hashfanatic said...

"Savage isnt saying anything anyway different than someone who grewup as he did in a working class neighborhood in the 50's."

Crusty, both neighborhoods that Savage grew up in were solidly upper-middle-class areas at the time. His style and manner of speaking are a matter of choice, not environment, and everyone that knew Savage prior to his lucrative transformation from dirty-haired hippie to raving Kahanist radical can testify that his persona is a carefully crafted, calibrated self-invention, and not any natural evolution in outlook.

Even this lawsuit nonsense is little more than a publicity stunt.


"Rhandi Rhodes, does get over the top, I agree."

In what way, Jim?


"C'mon pal. All the others might hate statements, or policies, or stances, but they aren't hateful."


Really, marshall?

Limbaugh, Coulter, and Ingraham aren't hateful?

How about Hugh Hewitt, Kevin McCullough, and Michael Medved?

They don't indulge in their own particular brand of hatefulness?

"...Stewart Smalley..."

I despise Al Franken, but he is not hateful, but, given the fact that he hasn't even been on the radio for several months, you must not get around to turning that ol' radio dial to the other end frequently enough to criticize...


"I do find it refreshing that he says what he thinks and doesn't back down.."

AHA! Exactly the point I made in an earlier post...that type of radio is ENTERTAINMENT, but was never meant to be informative...

Listen to it, enjoy it if you like...but, for God's sake, don't confuse it with news.

"And his main message is language, borders and culture...and I am with him 100%."

No comment on the sincerity of the rest of his shtick, but where Savage excels is his story-telling ability. I was surprised to notice he's good at telling stories and parables from his childhood, everyday life, etc. There is a need in society for that sort of character nowadays, and if he'd stick to that without bringing politics constantly into the mix, IMHO, he'd have a shot at a lasting career.

The Game said...

I would never consider Savage a news show...your right...it is entertainment for about 8 million people...or about 6.5 million more than the amount of people who consider air america entertainment...

hashfanatic said...

Yes, that is what occurs when your country becomes a fascist dictatorship, and programming that reflects your viewpoint is no longer permitted or allowed to be on the air...

Be mindful. It could happen to you as well, God forbid....

Jim said...

Hash, I could listen to Air America most of the day, but when Rhodes goes off on a rant, I sometimes have to turn her off. That said, I can usually listen to her longer than I can listen to Hannity.

The Game said...

Hash, are you going to go on the "right wing conspiracy" rant that air america and other liberals would have ratings if evil conservatives let them on the air.
Sorry, liberal talk radio is not entertaining...if it was, it would be on the air....oh wait, it was on the air and no one listened.

Jim said...

Game,

I've listed to Air America. I guess the difference is that Right Wing talk radio is entertainment while Liberal talk radio is informative. Liberals have many other sources of information including talk radio and maybe less time to listen to the radio or less inclined to get their information from radio.

The Game said...

You might be correct, atleast on some accounts...the bottom line is people do not want to listen to it...
I believe because conservative talk radio usually has a wide range of issues, and usually is (atleast attempted to be) based on facts. Air American gets annoying quick because you can't fill three hours a day with "Bush is evil, he stole the election 7 years ago."
Emotional rants don't work on the radio, that is what the network news is for, or all the made up photos liberal journalist print in the newspaper and magazines. To hit the heart strings, as liberals need to do in order to win arguements, you need pictures.

hashfanatic said...

"..but when Rhodes goes off on a rant, I sometimes have to turn her off..."

Yeah, I know what you mean. Malloy has that same way about him.

hashfanatic said...

"Emotional rants don't work on the radio, that is what the network news is for..."

You don't consider Savage "emotional", game?

What about Mark Levin, for example?
Is he "emotional"?

PCD said...

I really have to laugh at the lefties here, especially hash. When an article is taken from an MSM newssource and broadcast on "right wing radio" it is entertainment, not information. BUT, any hashfanatic rant on (Sc)Air America is 100% debunked lies, but Jim and Hash think it is truth told to Power

The Game said...

Savage CAN BE emotional, but he must be more entertaining about it than a liberal.
Levin seems to be emotional all the time...you win on that one. I guess I'll just say it again, he must be more entertaining and more people want to listen to him than just about every liberal in radio.

crustyolbastard said...

Bottom line is Savage says what a lot of people think should be said. To hell if it "offends " somebody.

Last time I looked 9 million wanted him to run for President. I dont think they see him as entertainment.

I guess thats why he should be off the air, huh?.

hashfanatic said...

"BUT, any hashfanatic rant on (Sc)Air America is 100% debunked lies,"

You wish, fudgie.

Now go back to hughie.

Parklife said...

really have to laugh at the rightists here..

Michael Weiner.. running for president? oh.. please god.. please make him run.

"To hell if it "offends " somebody."
Thats the mantra isnt it? You poor poor conservatives.. nobody likes it when you use hate speech. Just keep broadcasting for all I care. Savage is a racist.. but, if you want to listen to him.. be my guest.

blamin said...

Parky,

Shoud we defend a shock jock, or should you defend the current crop of Dem candidates? Either way, it's pretty damn funny!

Parklife said...

lol.. that was a good one Blamin. You know what else is funny? The 1/2 Hour Comedy Hour. Cant wait for the next episode.

hashfanatic said...

Yeah, what happened to that show, anyway?

The Game said...

Its on every week. It takes about 4 hours for CNN to get as many people to watch as do the 1/2 hour news hour.

hashfanatic said...

I thought the 1/2 news hour program had been cancelled. Again.