Thursday, September 13, 2007

FROM THE HALLS OF MALIBU TO THE SHORES OF KENNEDY

Democrats claim Gen. David Petraeus' report to Congress on the surge was a put-up job with a pre-ordained conclusion. As if their response wasn't.

Democrats yearn for America to be defeated on the battlefield and oppose any use of the military -- except when they can find individual malcontents in the military willing to denounce the war and call for a humiliating retreat. It's been the same naysaying from these people since before we even invaded Iraq -- despite the fact that their representatives in Congress voted in favor of that war.

Mark Bowden, author of "Black Hawk Down," warned Americans in the Aug. 30, 2002, Los Angeles Times of 60,000 to 100,000 dead American troops if we invaded Iraq -- comparing an Iraq war to Vietnam and a Russian battle in Chechnya. He said Iraqis would fight the Americans "tenaciously" and raised the prospect of Saddam using weapons of mass destruction against our troops, an attack on Israel "and possibly in the United States."

On Sept. 14, 2002, The New York Times' Frank Rich warned of another al-Qaida attack in the U.S. if we invaded Iraq, noting that since "major al-Qaida attacks are planned well in advance and have historically been separated by intervals of 12 to 24 months, we will find out how much we've been distracted soon enough." This week makes it six years since a major al-Qaida attack. I guess we weren't distracted. But it looks like al-Qaida has been.

We took Baghdad in about 17 days flat with amazingly few casualties. There were no al-Qaida attacks in America, no attacks on Israel, no invasion by Turkey, no attacks on our troops with chemical weapons, no ayatollahs running Iraq. We didn't turn our back on the Kurds. There were certainly not 100,000 dead American troops.

But liberals soon began raising yet more pointless quibbles. For most of 2003, they said the war was a failure because we hadn't captured Saddam Hussein. Then we captured Saddam, and Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean complained that "the capture of Saddam has not made America safer."

The Democrats' current talking point is that "there can be no military solution in Iraq without a political solution." But back when we were imposing a political solution, Democrats' talking point was that there could be no political solution without a military solution.

They said the first Iraqi election, scheduled for January 2005, wouldn't happen because there was no "security."

And then, as scheduled, in January 2005, millions of citizens in a country that has never had a free election risked their lives to cast ballots in a free democratic election. They've voted twice more since then.

Now our forces are killing lots of al-Qaida jihadists, preventing another terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and giving democracy in Iraq a chance -- and Democrats say we are "losing" this war. I think that's a direct quote from their leader in the Senate, Harry Reid, but it may have been the Osama bin Laden tape released this week. I always get those two confused.

OK, they knew what Petraeus was going to say. But we knew what the Democrats were going to say. If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid.

PERFECT!!! The left is the party of the defeatists, the party that can not and will not be happy with anything that happens in Iraq. They set one standard for success, we meet it. Then the bar changes again and again. Liberal arguments about the war are pathetic and ever changing. This column is a grand slam.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

“Liberal arguments about the war are pathetic and ever changing. This column is a grand slam’.... I thought only far-left crazy liberals were on drugs!! Apparently not so!! ;-)

The Game said...

very informative

Andy said...

As are idiotic statements such as "Democrats yearn for America to be defeated on the battlefield and oppose any use of the military -- except when they can find individual malcontents in the military willing to denounce the war and call for a humiliating retreat."

The Game said...

it was all presented, quotes were given, facts presented. I logical person, looking at all the anti-military and antio-soldier comments that have been made can easily conclude that most Democrats can't stand the military or soldiers. Furthermore, they are upset when the USA makes progress in Iraq

Andy said...
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Andy said...

You are logical and objective with no preconceived notions...uh huh.

You have a preconceived notion of what the Democratic Party stands for, find an op-ed that conforms/reinforces this view, and attempt to present it as fact. This is the schoolyard game you play.

Marshal Art said...

More accurately, no one knows what the Democratic Party stands for. That is except for abortion on demand, taxing the crap out of producers, lowering the bar on morals and decency under the guise of freedom of speech, and yes, by virtue of their lame attacks on the Bush administration since the beginning of his first term, getting their sorry asses back in the White House no matter the cost. If they have an actual platform that is more than simply spewing ambiguous platitudes, they've never published it. YOU, Andy, don't even know what they stand for.

hashfanatic said...

Another "big lie".

The Game said...

You can't refute any of that

Jim said...

The Republic party stands for no taxes whatsoever, endless deficits, incompetence at every level of government, unfettered business, no sex except to specifically procreate within marriage, and everybody is equal as long as you are a Christian.

You can't refute any of that.

The Game said...
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The Game said...

It is easy to refute your stupid, DailyKos, tin hat wearing crap.

The Republic party stands for no taxes whatsoever- There are many state governments and Governors...and those states have taxes idiot.

endless deficits...FDR started the welfare state, it hasn't changed ever since. The only time we were not in deficit was when we finally got a Republican controlled congress...then 9-11 happened

incompetence at every level of government-Lets use Katrina as an example. ONE state and ONE city, run by Democrats, was unable to handle things. The Republican state right next door, hit as hard or harder seems to be doing just fine. No "chocolate city" comments, no whining or complaining, just hard work, which is what conservatives do.

unfettered business- When ENRON was going down, who did the top execs call? Former Bill Clinton cabinet members for help, not conservatives...Conservatives are for a free market, you are for socialism...big difference.

no sex except to specifically procreate within marriage- Wow Jim, don't have a kid til you get married, that is called the correct way to do it. Its called morality and a nuclear family. I guess you are for all the single mothers in the inner city. Is that what you like Jim? It must be.

and everybody is equal as long as you are a Christian- No, we don't see things in groups like you do. EVERYONE who works hard and is responsible is okay by me...unlike you who have to separate everything by black/white, old/young, rich/poor.

Sorry for bitch slapping you so hard this early in the morning.

None said...

Enron?
Youre kidding.. Before killing people in California, Enron was the largest donor to G W Bush. They pushed the deregulation of the energy market and (with the help of Arthur Andersen) defrauded millions of people. After killing people in California, a Democratic governor was hung out to dry by the newly minted President. All because Bush cares more about profits for Enron and cares more about turning states red than people living in the biggest state in the nation. If anything.. Enron is an example of how bad unregulated markets and how bad unregulated industry can be. Further, they only underscore and highlight how actual campaign finance reform is badly needed in this country. I'm sorry that you read Newsmax, Game. They are not famous for their facts and accuracy.

The fall of Enron helped push for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. Yes, more regulation from your socialist govt. Investors dont like being sold a bill of goods. This is why regulation can help a free market.

"Conservatives are for a free market"
This is another lie. Or.. half-truth. Libertarians are for a free market. And they are so far off their rockers its sad. Republicans are not for free markets. They want to "help" constituents as much as any political official does. That means doing the bidding of special interest groups. If that means handing over large subsidies to companies, they are ready to pass legislation. You want more evidence of this?? Again.. check out SOX. Can you say "Bi-partisan"...

Sex = Kids?
Have you taken sex-ed? Do you know what a condom is?

Morality and a nuclear family?
You are the last person that should be talking about "morality". You're authoritarian ideas of what is right and wrong are antiquated. These ideas inhibit freedom and liberty in this country.

Nuclear Family.. what decade are you from?

"It is easy to refute.."
Umm.. we're all waiting. Feel free to start anytime.. Just go ahead.. any day now.. come on. Game.. you can do it.

Game.. even your boyfriend, MA, thinks you post before you think.

Andy said...

Game said tin hat.

Hmmm.....Vince Foster!

The Game said...

You show your low level of intellect by not being able to comment on even ONE of the perfectly thought out and executed points I made.

Andy said...
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Andy said...

Why spend more than a passing moment on your post when it smells of blatant hypocrisy from sentence #1, skippy.

Realism said...

Examining your "arguments" in order to refute them actually has the effect of lowering one's IQ. That's why I just let your posts that are especially ripe with your pungent stupidity pass by without comment.

Andy said...

Realism, that way a rhetorical question....but you addressed it well!

Jim said...

Andy re: Vince Foster. Thanks for covering for me while I was out.

hashfanatic said...

There is NO reason for anybody, particularly any politician, to APOLOGIZE or in any way BACK DOWN from their support of the moveon.org ad, whose sentiments incidentally happen to be 100% true, and reflect perfectly what the vast majority of Americans believe, whether it is safe for them to speak openly about it or not.

Scorpion said...

WOW....if bizarro-world wouldn't be
so sensitive,their drivel borders on hilarious.Logic is non-existent in bizarro-world...I guess that's why it's so amusing.